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Old 02-17-2009, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by dklassen View Post
Since when has it been the governments job to give cradle to grave care to all who think they deserve it?

There’s this thing called the Constitution but let’s not let that get in the way. Where's the Constitutional power the government has to transfer money from one person to another or take over large segmanets of the private sector? That's exactly what Obama means to do in a big way.

How about the folks who are about to lose their homes. Some of our tax dollars in the form of stimulus is going to pay down their principle so they can keep their homes. A part of that will be coming out of my paycheck. Well hells bells, I want my principle paid down to. Where’s my cut?

Chelsea24, Here’s a direct question to you. Given the government only operates on taxes it collects from us, how much of what I earn belongs to you and why? How much of my paycheck each week should go to you… or anyone?

And you are absolutely correct. Anyone who takes us down the socialist government controlled road should be run out of town on a rail and I don't care who they are or what party they belong to Bush included.

It feels real good to get on a soap box and cry the blues for all the poor and downtrodden and how the government should do something… anything at any expense. It’s nothing but liberal pap. The outcome or consequences never really matter as long as it makes you feel good saying it. But let's all wish Mr. Obama nice nice because that makes us feel good and above the rest.

You think hammering republicans will get a rise out of people? Some of you seem to think that if you’re anti-Obama you’re automatically pro republican or pro Bush. Think again my friends.

And yes, A good portion of the American people have been scammed by a slick talking radical who cares little about the recovery and more about power and control. Do you honestly believe these trillions of government pork spending will help the economy? Wait a few years and we'll talk again.

You can turn your heads away and ignore the Constitution and every single principle our country was founded on but I never will.

Some of you may think I’m cruel. Well here’s a real zinger for you. Anyone who supports this ridiculous, irresponsible pork barrel, government takeover stimulus package is dropping this right on the backs of our children and grand children. Now that’s what I consider cruel. Shame on me?
There's more people who agree with you than may say so out loud.

I want Pres. Obama to succeed, but for me "success" is to not commit high crimes and misdemeanors which lead to impeachment.

Regarding earlier posts in this string concerning Iraq and Vietnam, let me make myself perfectly clear:

- - - had not the Clinton administration, in its quest to cut budgets involved in American defense, slashed away the US intelligence effort which took generations to develop, there's a good chance that there may never have been a 9/11, as the bad guys would have been neutralized on the other side of the Atlantic - as we used to be able to do. For the Clintonites who want to ignore what their hero did to the US military and the intelligence community, you can "ostrich" on this all you want, or cry "foul" if you so choose. That doesn't change what occurred in the Clinton administration, whatever the reasons for doing so and whether the risk seemed worthwhile or not.

- - - the US actions in Iraq and Afghanistan have made it clear that if the international bullies want to swipe at the US, their world will get lit up big-time. Those brave men and women who serve and sacrifice in the "sandbox" are buying us time to rebuild our former capacity to keep the bad guys off our turf. We've made a lot of progress in that regard thanks to them, but that's the cost for previously reduced vigilance in exchange for more entitlement programs.

- - - As a Vietnam Vet I've heard too many times how we "lost the war" there, mainly from folk who have no idea what were the circumstances for the American involvement and what could be achieved in that environment. You can have any opinion you want - mine is at http://www.geocities.com/matlock.cvma/why-vietnam.htm

I'm reminding myself that the existing (and shrinking) pool of US taxpayers just found that each and every taxpayer is now tagged with another $9,000 more in future taxes due, plus interest, just to pay for this stimulus package. Some of us will pay our share and then some - some will pay little towards this levy. If you are filing "joint," then double the levy. So, what do you think you'll actually get for your $9000 (or $18,000 if filing jointly)? Or are you part of the herd which rides the coattails of others?