No secret where I stand on this, but as I read the posts and recall the campaign I remember a quote from Saul Alinsky.....Alinsky the man who has been mentioned a few times on here and sort of mocked...the author of the bible for radicals, studied and supported strongly by our new President. A book by the way, dedicated to Satan !

The quote...

"A reformation means that masses of our people have reached the point of disillusionment with past ways and values. They don't know what will work but they do know that the prevailing system is self-defeating, frustrating, and hopeless. They won't act for change but won't strongly oppose those who do. The time is then ripe for revolution. "


Sort of November, 2008