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Originally Posted by blueash
Ok, I can prove otherwise. The vaccines in data submitted for their approval did 100% prevent hospitalization and death from Covid. The same data showed, however, that persons who had been fully immunized could catch Covid with clinical symptoms but not severe symptoms. If you are clinically ill, you are contagious. Period.
Can I still get COVID-19 after the vaccine? | wbir.com
SoCal nurse who contracted COVID-19 after vaccination urges others to still get the vaccine - ABC7 Los Angeles
After COVID-19 vaccination: Is it OK to visit with friends and loved ones? - Mayo Clinic
So the 5% who do not get protection are still capable of becoming ill and spreading disease. It is a higher percent with the newer J&J vaccine. This, of course, does not answer the question, can a person who never develops clinical illness catch Covid and spread it. This is not a trivial question as it is well known that subclinical Covid is very common and those persons are contagious. Nothing is known about vaccine protection against sub-clinical disease.
By the way Dr. Fauci is certainly not a political hack. You may not understand infectious disease as he does, having spent his career on the subject. And you certainly show a lack of scientific education when you write about ingesting virus spores. Please don't pontificate on the science involved in the public health recommendations. You can have an uninformed opinion, of course, but there are actual virologists and infectious disease experts who would differ with your conclusions.
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Like I said, there are experts with both views and I prefer the one that sounds more logical. You are correct that I am not an expert, and I admitted that. However, I can also tell the difference between BS and chocolate cake.
I certainly will not use a questionable news media for advice and I will not give much stock to our gov. run or subsidized medical experts.
If you are sincere about researching the validity of the vaccines, then try looking at both sides. I did and will go with private sector professionals.
If I thought that I could still get covid after receiving the vaccination, or even transmit it, then I would not have allowed them to put that crap in me. Tell me why anyone with a lick of sense would get the vaccination if they were told it wouldn't do anything for them. As a matter of fact, that is probably why a whole lot of younger folks refuse to get vaccinated.
But like I said, this is my opinion. I doubt you will consider it, but there are some interesting studies out there by Israeli scientists that are pretty intriguing. They also have an interesting nasal spray that has been 99.99% effective in killing viruses being inhaled through the nose.
But, if it make folks more hysterical, panic driven and dependent on the gov. let's not be positive about the fact that covid is almost a nothing burger now that the death rate from covid is way down. And it is not necessarily from wearing masks. And isn't it funny that the interest is driven by politics? And YES, fauci really IS a political hack.