If you look at what was actually evaluated during the Moderna trial you would see they were testing for 2 symptoms plus a positive test for the virus. I believe you needed a negative test to be counted as part of the population that wasn't positive. Their statistics (20x reduction in probability) were based on the trial results. Why you feel the vaccine is not a vaccine is a mystery to me. Please state your qualifications to dispute what medical professionals are calling a vaccine. Please provide some references to support your conclusion that everyone will be infected. Let's start with the baseline that if you cannot detect the infection with the current tests (PCR or antigen) then you aren't infected. Evidence of a previous infection (or vaccination) could be based on an antibody test.
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Originally Posted by oneclickplus
The ignorance around the shot (not a vaccine) is truly amazing to me. Getting the shot does nothing to "reduce the probability of being infected". Whenever you are exposed to the virus (any virus), you are infected. The only hope of any shot (not a vaccine) is to have your body properly defend against it.
Having taken the shot (not a vaccine) is not like "Scotty - shields up". It does nothing to prevent you from inhaling the virus or getting it while picking your nose after coming in contact with it.
Take note: Over time ... EVERYONE will become infected with the virus ... PERIOD. The only thing a shot (not a vaccine) or your innate immune system (my preference) can do is respond to that infection. That RESPONSE is what determines if you get "sick". Lack of getting sick does not mean you have not been "infected".
A quiet controlled response means you won't even know you got infected (i.e. you don't get sick). A wild out-of-control response means you get sick from the infection (and then recover ... or not).
But, don't harbor any illusion that you will never get the virus because you got the shot (not a vaccine). That is inevitable. Everyone will get infected ... EVERYONE.
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