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Originally Posted by golfing eagles
Idiotic idea-----Very Simple
Why?????
Because even those that are vaccinated may be in the 5% that do not acquire immunity (or 20+% with J&J or Astra-Zeneca), and then there is the question of how long that immunity lasts. So someone gets the vaccine, gets the "passport", and then we still don't know if they are any different than the unvaccinated. And they are certainly less protected than those who had COVID and recovered, but not vaccinated.
How long is the "passport" good for? Renew every what? 3 months,6 months, year? How do you get "100% proof" that a person previously vaccinated is still immune? The "experts" tell us that the antibody test is not valid for that purpose, it is only a marker of previous infection or vaccination. (If it is like most antibody tests, immunity would be dependent upon the titer, usually a 1:32 dilution is adequate, but this is a novel virus and I don't think this has been studied)
So playing out this "passport" scenario, it would be entirely possible, even likely, that someone who has been vaccinated (but did not acquire immunity), has the paperwork to travel, shop, eat out , etc. , while the person next to him in line without the "passport" but is totally immune by virtue of previous infection is denied those privileges. Same with someone whose did acquire immunity, has the "passport", but enough time has passed that their immunity has faded.
Add to the ineffectiveness of such a "passport" plan is the enormous task of actually enforcing it. Most retail stores that currently REQUIRE a mask do not challenge customers who are not wearing one. Imagine the difficulty with something as invasive as a vaccine?
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I am disappointed and expect better from you. No vaccine is 100% effective. Nonetheless children cannot go to school without proof of immunization. You know that and I think you support that. No school would claim that having their students immunized totally guarantees that those particular illnesses will never be spread in the school. But requiring proof of immunization is the best a school can do, so that is what the law requires. Might some parent forge a vaccine certificate, sure.
All those countries that require proof of Yellow Fever vaccination. Are you going to tell them what a foolish idea that is as the vaccine likely has a failure rate as well or do you think that is a reasonable precaution against a disease that kills about 50,000 a year? Over time, if we get a requirement for a Covid passport, the issues of how recent a booster is needed for the passport to be valid will be answered. You know that.
Arguing that a vaccine passport is not perfect is not a reason to reject the idea. No public health measure is perfect. No vaccine is perfect. Don't let perfect be the enemy of the good. You know that too.