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Old 03-06-2009, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by SteveZ View Post
I agree with most of your comment, except the "we will all end up sacrificing..." line. The "we" is going to be the one/third who actually pay taxes, and the remaining two/thirds will be there either with their hand extended palm-up or watching from the sidelines.

Health care is one of those emotionally-charged items used by politicians to raise the fear-level. Of the 45 million claimed by some to not have health insurance, this includes roughly 15 million or so illegal aliens, and why should citizens and legal residents be responsible for them anyway?

The remaining 30 million (which includes head-of-household, spouse and children) constitute approximately 10% of the population. With an unemployment rate average of 5% (yeah, it's higher now, but the concept isn't affected), an insurance plan which covers only those (and their family members) who are receiving unemployment benefits would cover a sizable number.

Now, the balance of uninsured folk have been whittled down to a number which offers even more flexible choices which are more logical than nationalizing (and actually diluting services) the health care industry.

I knows this seems like a very simple approach to what has been marketed as a complex problem. However, until we examine the actual numbers in relation to the entire population, a true solution cannot occur.

For those who say that their health care premiums are too high, that solution is also straightforward. If we can give tax credits for a myriad of things from "green" programs to kid quantum, then providing dollar-for-dollar (or other ratio) reduction in income tax for paying health care premiums is an option. This keeps folk with their coverage without increasing the size of the federal government to "run" a program with the typical government "efficiency" when government inserts itself into the private marketplace.

However, the current administration seems hell-bent on establishing a "health czar" office which would need assets to manage in order to "czar" over an empire. As those federal assets don't currently exist except for selected portions of the population, the need for more federal offices to be created becomes inherent to czar-ism.

In the end, as health care, banking, and other industries are nationalized one-by-one, we would all be working for the government. That's the ultimate socialist goal.....
The beginning of this thread, the comment from Daschle caught my eye. I can give you a real scenario. My mother has been ill and passed away earlier this month. The explanation of benefits from medicare/ blue cross arrived yesterday. The bill was over $4600. Out of pocket expenses would be $0. I'm sure other bils from specialists with trickle in. Meanwhile, the average Joe before medicare but with healthcare would not have a zero bill. Think about it. If you are 96 years old you have been blessed and lived a pretty full life. Expensive surgeries at that age are not cost effective nor would the chances of surviving some procedures would be risky. So if two folks needed a kidney transplant- one was 16 and the other was 96 which recipient would more than likely enjoy quality of life from such a procedure.

I don't know about the accuracy of the 1/3 pay the taxes for the remaining 2/3. That would mean 200 million Americans get a free ride? I do know there are too many loopholes in the tax system that favor the wealthy. I wonder how those were added? We all need to make sacrifices. If you have been collecting medicare for awhile who do you think is footing that bill now that you are no longer working?
Speaking of politicians, how about a referendum that their pensions and medical coverage are in line with everyone else. The same goes for postal workers.
Lobbyist control our country. Big oil, insurance companies, the casino-like NYSE fueled on fear and greed, pharmaceutical companies, big banks. That doesn't even touch the issues with the Federal Reserve and the possible insolvency of the FDIC. It isn't a Democrat or Republican issue. Both wink and look the other way.

The sage advice of Ron Paul sounds better right now.