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Old 04-14-2021, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by blueash View Post
Despite GEagle's use of CAPs and BOLDS what he is telling you is not true. He continues, over and over to claim that a person who has received a full course of Covid vaccines


How can quote the actual truth then call it a myth shows and incredible mental block to evidence based medicine. He continues to admit that the vaccine has a failure rate but then says a recipient CANNOT spread Covid. While he may be a psychic and in the future there will be support for his prediction, he is wrong in his certainty.

The CDC has never said that a fully vaccinated person cannot spread Covid. In fact here is what it said on April 2, 2021

I cannot find a single highly respected authority who has said what GE claims. What is true, and entirely different from screaming CANNOT is that a fully vaccinated person is very unlikely to infect others. I am very unlikely to have a car accident today but I'm still wearing my seat belt.

I will post the link instead of telling you to accept my word about what a fully vaccinated person can do. CDC Link




This permission of course requires that everyone in the indoor space be vaccinated thus the cruise industry will need to see proof of vaccination for staff and passengers.

There is more which is specific to travel. Again the CDC Link for that with a longer discussion of travel safety issued on April 2, 2021



Even a poor reader can see that the CDC did not say a fully vaccinated person CANNOT catch or spread Covid.

In fact on Apr 8 the CDC updated a requirement, not a suggestion, that all air passengers flying into the US must have a negative Covid test within 3 days of boarding the return flight or you are to be denied boarding. Being vaccinated does not change this requirement. If the CDC believed that being vaccinated meant; as GE claims is well established; that you CANNOT spread disease they certainly would not have made this severe rule.
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Originally Posted by roscoguy View Post
Still wrong, no matter how loudly it is shouted. Thanks to blueash and others who have already responded with links provided to dispel this rumor. All my own reading & research on the CDC site and many others says that fully vaccinated people may still carry the virus and may still transmit it.
But definitively wrong?
Nice try ladies and gentlemen, but that IS NOT what I said. I SAID that a fully vaccinated individual WHO ACQUIRED IMMUNITY COULD NOT acquire or spread the virus. For those with reading comprehension issues, that means I EXCLUDED the 5% that you are referring to.

Do I need to quote the CDC again????? Or is the paragraph above clear enough? OR SHOULD I SHOUT LOUDER????

Now that I explained why I am right and you are wrong-----I'll explain what you read on the CDC site but failed to understand.....and I'll just use an example to explain.

If 100 people are "fully vaccinated", SOME of them can still acquire and spread the virus, but likely will get less ill and are less likely to die. THESE are the 5%.

So yes, if you word it that way, fully vaccinated individuals can acquire and spread the disease.

But I was referring to the 95%. These people were fully vaccinated AND FULLY IMMUNE. So to shout it once again for those that are heard of hearing, THESE PEOPLE CANNOT GET OR SPREAD COVID. And once again, PERIOD!

I can't make it any simpler than that.

So thanks to those that tried to muddy the water with "their own reading" and then formed their own mutual admiration society thanking each other for their "contributions".