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Originally Posted by roscoguy
My reading comprehension is just fine. Yours? Maybe a bit less. The 95% figure is, again, NOT the number of people who will get the virus. Please re-read the quote from the TIME article I referred to in post #68. It's very important that you understand this distinction.
OK, let's go back to my original suggestion (in post #11) & see what happens. Search for "can a vaccinated person infect someone else with covid."
Hit #1: Study asks if vaccinated people can still transmit virus, Fauci says | PBS NewsHour Read it if you want but the gist is that there is no definitive answer.
Hit #2: Can vaccinated people still spread the coronavirus? contains this "Many people think vaccines work like a shield, blocking a virus from infecting cells altogether. But in most cases, a person who gets vaccinated is protected from disease, not necessarily infection."
Hit #3: Bloomberg - Are you a robot? in part says this: "We think of vaccines as working by preventing the transmission of a disease. But that isn't necessarily the case.
“The short answer is we don’t quite know yet,” says Buddy Creech, director of Vanderbilt University's Vaccine Research Program."
Hit #4: Can vaccinated people still spread the coronavirus? Here's a quote, "1. Does vaccination completely prevent infection?
The short answer is no. You can still get infected after you’ve been vaccinated. But your chances of getting seriously ill are almost zero.
Many people think vaccines work like a shield, blocking a virus from infecting cells altogether. But in most cases, a person who gets vaccinated is protected from disease, not necessarily infection."
Hit #5: Can I infect someone after I’ve received the COVID-19 vaccine? - Mayo Clinic offers this: "Andrew Badley, M.D., COVID-19 Research Task Force Chair, Mayo Clinic: What we know the vaccine does is it prevents symptomatic disease. What we don't know if it does or not is to prevent infection. And if you are infected, but you don't get sick because of the vaccine, you can still replicate the virus and transmit the virus."
I can go on, but it would only be wasting everybody's time. Feel free to point out any errors in MY reading comprehension of any of these, or provide any other reputable sources to back your specious argument. |
First thing you got right
I would stop right there, but you still don't understand. You have cherry picked quotes that are referring to the vaccinated population as a whole----so yes, there are vaccinated people who can acquire and transmit the virus---a small percentage of them. And yes, you are correct in pointing out efficacy and immunity are 2 different things, because that was the study design for these vaccines. Since a positive antibody test after vaccination is NOT a good measure of immunity, I can't think of a better study metric than symptomatic disease.
HOWEVER, the overwhelming majority of those vaccinated will acquire immunity and be unable to spread the disease----that is the whole point of a massive vaccination program, once you stop parsing words.
Also read between the lines. The vast majority of these researchers outside the pharmaceutical companies are dependent on federal funding, and the outcome the feds want at this time is continued mask wearing. You connect the dots.