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Originally Posted by Cassie325
I have not posted in a few days and have stayed out of Political for a while...however this is a statement that I believe is very upsetting!
Most of these women are raped...not just once...but many, many times and are typically gang raped. Whether there was discipline or education....RAPE is a horrible thing and should not be blamed on either the discipline or education of the women and children suffering or the men (groups of) that are participating in the act!!!
I am surprised at this statement Steve. I agree with most of the post you wrote but this statement is disturbing. Look at the reality of the country we are speaking of....
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We're not talking about a single country - but several countries on the African continent. And the anarchy and other political problems there are legion. And again, the problem is discipline and education. Paramilitary rapists there don't carry condoms, and probably wouldn't know what to do with one or would consider it unmanly to use one - they carry ammunition and machetes instead.
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Originally Posted by Taj44
I wouldn't call trying to save human lives "being a slave to fashion". Scientists, doctors and governments throughout the world have criticized his statements as being unrealistic, unscientific and dangerous. I read that the current Pontiff is the most extreme since Pius XII. Last week Catholics in Brazil were told they could be excommunicated if they had helped perform an abortion on a nine-year-old who had been raped, but, strangely, not if they had been involved in the rape that impregnated her. Everyone is entitled to their own religious beliefs, but for me, a leader of the Church who promotes dogma over saving lives, is not my idea of a good Christian. At the very least it shows just how out of touch he is. Any fool can see that condoms work - what is the problem with that?
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http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/be...erview_en.html - Interview of Benedict XVI during the flight to Africa, 17 March 2009.
Rather than the journalistic snippets presented by the press, suggest those who condemn or ridicule the Pope on this matter take the time and effort to read the actual interview, complete with the logic for the position taken. You might be surprised with what you hadn't heard or read via the commercial press. This Pope is far from being a fool, and is an educated, pragmatic academic who doesn't make idle statements. You may disagree with his logic, but his arguments are solid.
There's nothing wrong with dogma, especially when that dogma recognizes the frailty of the human nature and the inherent cultural impediments to understanding that nature. More importantly, that dogma recognizes that you just can't replace human behavior and responsibility with a piece of latex.