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Originally Posted by Byte1
I don't know how they rate our health care system, but I do know what I have experienced overseas and I do know how much folks in other countries PAY for their gov run fiasco. Like standing in lines for months to get treated or even examined? Do you like being put in a ward for days, that resembles living in a military barracks (with curtains) instead of a private room.....or even a shared room? Do you mind paying at least half of your paycheck in payroll deductions, when you are supposed to be middle class and have to live like our lower class earners? Before looking at the grass on the other side of the fence, thinking it is tastier....try living it before moving.
An interesting publication (kind of old by now) regarding world health care, compares health care and costs of many countries in the world. The publication is called "The Grass Is Not Always Greener" from the CATO Institute, I believe. I'm sure there will be those that wish to "politically" disparage the old publication, but I found it to be interesting none the less.
I also find it interesting that Canadians come to our country for treatment. I have a niece that is a nurse in Canada that comes to our country for treatment. Makes one wonder what she knows. Her mother died of cancer back in the late '70s, having had trouble getting treated in Canada. Not saying that she might have survived if treated earlier.
Yes, we need a better system. But, I would NEVER EVER want the gov to run or manage our health care, based on their track record.
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I have also been to several countries and have never experienced what you describe. I am not saying you are wrong, I am saying it varies from country to country.
For example, I am having significant dental work done in Ecuador, bone graphs for jaw reconstruction, 5 implants, bridges, sinus surgery and more. No waiting, 1/4 the cost, $6000 vs $24000 here, and that $6000 includes 3 round trip flights, AirBnB while there and food, etc. the work being done is as good or better than here.
My wife and I considered migrating to Ecuador when we found their government provided healthcare covers everything including dental and optical and would cost us about $97/mth. Oh and there is no deductible.
As to how they rate it our healthcare system. That is pretty easy, the number of cases of infant mortality are publicly reported. Take that number per capita and our infant mortally is higher than any other industrialized country. Number of cases of heart attacks per capita and outcome, or deaths, is also higher.
And we pay 2.5 times more than people with universal healthcare even when taking into account the amount they pay in taxes to provide the healthcare.