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Old 06-08-2021, 04:13 PM
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Those that keep asking for socialism, aka gov run health care have never lived in a country that has it. If they knew how much EVERYONE's payroll deduction is to pay for it, and saw how it is implemented in those other countries, they would be grateful for our great country. Yes, we do need some form of insurance reform, such as open state border shopping for insurance. And tort reform so that doctors didn't have to pay hundreds of thousands a year in malpractice premiums.
Of course countries with single payer have payroll deductions to pay for health care, just like we have deductions for private health insurance and Medicare. I'm semi-retired and pay $1,800/month COBRA until we are eligible for Medicare. Prior to that, we paid $300/month out-of-pocket for the plan, the employer paid the $1,500/month. But that $1,500 was essentially coming out of my paycheck also, because that money was not available to me as salary. So the question is, if I got $1,800/month extra in salary, what would my deduction be for single-payer healthcare? I think it would be substantially less than $1,800/month.

And that's a COBRA plan with a group rate. If I go out on the market, who knows if I can even get health insurance?

I don't think private health insurance enthusiasts need to worry, we won't be going to single payer in my lifetime. Well, except Medicare, which I thought was a good program that worked out nicely for my Mom.