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Originally Posted by jimjamuser
Good, I thought my hypothesis would touch a nerve. Immigration was good up till about 1980 when it became excessive in MY opinion. And you did NOT Address my comment about either quality of life or an OPTIMUM population. Suppose you have 2 dogs in your house. Life is good. Then you get to 5 dogs, and you husband feels that he is spending too much time feeding and going to the Vet. for them. Then, you get to 10 dogs and the neighbors start complaining and you have to defend against a lawsuit and your neighbors no longer talk to you. Life has less quality of life. Then you get 20 dogs and rocks are thrown through your windows. Then you are away and the house is burned down. Now, life is terrible for YOU. I know you see my point. It just sounds anti-progressive. I get that!
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The point is, these dogs didn't just appear out of nowhere. They came from someplace that wasn't all that great in the first place. If you fix that place, you won't find all those unwanted dogs in the kennel. People won't be so eager to dump them on you. The dogs need to live SOMEWHERE.
If you want to compare accurately, how about we just leave them in their former homes where they are abused and used for bait in dog fights, or who are abandoned in their yards and left to starve? Why not just do that?
And let's carry that comparison (since you're the one who wants to compare immigrants to unwanted dogs) to people:
How about we just euthanize all the immigrants? Unwanted mongrels, let's just put them all to sleep. Whenever they come to our kennel (the border) we don't even check to see if they're adoptable. We just put them down.
No? You don't want to do that? Why not? That is the comparison you are choosing here. Unwanted dogs = unwanted immigrants.
It's a sick comparison. And I wouldn't do that with a dog, either by the way. Fix the problem at its source. The countries these people are coming FROM are inhospitable to civilized human existence. They have to go SOMEWHERE and they don't have the means to buy an island and create their own peaceful civilization. So they come here.
Will we tell them they have to go back to being abused, murdered, terrorized, sold into slavery, tortured? Or will we take them WHILE we attempt to get their home countries to stop doing this to each other?
You only get to pick one option.
I choose humanity. Even if it's inconvenient.