I find it facinating that these two posts are in the same thread. I am shocked that the Obama supportors are upset at all of the "naysayers" discussing the current President. This is after nearly eight years of constent Bush-bashing. See "the village idiot and his ilk" comment. These are comments of a personal nature, not a disagreement over policy. For example, it would be unfair for me to ask if President Obama has appointed anyone who actually fully paid their taxes. I wouldn't do that.