[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by Swoop

When Fauci was asked about his own staff, he guessed that 50-60% were vaccinated. Pretty much in line with the general US population.

Can you tell me the reasons Fauci's staff is not vaccinated? Can you tell me what percentage of those have you imply they don't think it is safe, since you included it in your answer, which focuses on the "uncertainty" of outcome using the vaccination? What percentage of Fauci's staff that are not vaccinated have worked as heads of virus research projects and vaccine creating projects for over 40 years?

The US population includes 23% under 18 years old. Would you like to show any evidence that 50% of 18 years old and younger are uncertain of the outcome of the vaccine? Because if we start breaking out all the demographics your 50% that fall into the category of not wanting to take the vaccine because of a lack of testing sort of fall apart.

What percentage of people who were vaccinated have any idea how the mRNA delivery system works?

Do you know how electricity works? Do you understand how Rocket engines work?

Do you know how cruise control works on your car? Do you use it? Do you know and understand the testing to have it certified?

My point is, your point is meaningless. Almost everything in medicine is "unknown" to the majority of Americans. Yet, most Americans "blindly" follow their doctor's advice and take the medicine their doctors prescribe. Guess what that doesn't always turn out well, but on the other hand, it does turn out well more often than it does not.

How many know that although scientists have experimented with mRNA for 10 years, it was never approved as a delivery system for human vaccines?

I may be misreading your comment here, but the wording seems to me to imply it was not safe - so it wasn't released. I hope so, that is how science works - you don't release things until they are safe. Kind of like why things are in the last place you look for them because most people stop looking when they find them. Unlike most people, scientists continue to study vaccines - even after they find them.

The Influenza vaccine was researched (experimented with) for 15 years before being authorized. And then its authorization was pushed ahead of when doctors wanted it to be released because of high infection rates affecting the military's readiness.

Pfizer vaccine (mRNA)was authorized for use on people 12 years old and older on December 11, 2020. That would be under President Trump's administration which took credit for the historic achievement on numerous occasions.

President Trump created a pathway that reduced testing and red tape to encourage/allow/permit companies to get vaccines to the market faster and with less testing than would normally have been done. I think that was a good thing - I believe the scientist when they say the potential dangers of the vaccine are outweighed by the known good it does.

How many know that there have been no studies about the long-term effects of mRNA vaccines on the immune systems?

And what difference does it make? Please explain exactly how the scientist came to the conclusion to authorize the use of the vaccine. Explain how the potential long-term effects were completely ignored. And please provide some links or evidence to support your claim/assertion/idea that there is no scientific methodology that was used to determine if the mRNA vaccine might be dangerous - in the long or short time frames. Please, enlighten us.

And how many just blindly accepted the vaccine?

How many just blindly follow their primary care physician's advice every day? How many BLINDLY follow their Oncologists' treatment plan? How many blindly accept that flying is safe? How many blindly drink Coke or bottled water?

I know a lot about Computers, I know almost nothing about the development of virus vaccines. I can't know everything about everything. So, I listen to my PCP and do what she says. I listen to my Cardiovascular surgeon and do what he says. Do I ask him if he is certified for a particular sticking technique I prefer? Uh, nope. I do not question his knowledge or expertise. I do my job and he counts on his computer working. He does his job and my aorta artery keeps working. Both take what the other does on "BLIND FAITH".