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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan
Can you tell me the reasons Fauci's staff is not vaccinated? Can you tell me what percentage of those have you imply they don't think it is safe, since you included it in your answer, which focuses on the "uncertainty" of outcome using the vaccination? What percentage of Fauci's staff that are not vaccinated have worked as heads of virus research projects and vaccine creating projects for over 40 years?
The US population includes 23% under 18 years old. Would you like to show any evidence that 50% of 18 years old and younger are uncertain of the outcome of the vaccine? Because if we start breaking out all the demographics your 50% that fall into the category of not wanting to take the vaccine because of a lack of testing sort of fall apart.
Do you know how electricity works? Do you understand how Rocket engines work?
Do you know how cruise control works on your car? Do you use it? Do you know and understand the testing to have it certified?
My point is, your point is meaningless. Almost everything in medicine is "unknown" to the majority of Americans. Yet, most Americans "blindly" follow their doctor's advice and take the medicine their doctors prescribe. Guess what that doesn't always turn out well, but on the other hand, it does turn out well more often than it does not.
I may be misreading your comment here, but the wording seems to me to imply it was not safe - so it wasn't released. I hope so, that is how science works - you don't release things until they are safe. Kind of like why things are in the last place you look for them because most people stop looking when they find them. Unlike most people, scientists continue to study vaccines - even after they find them.
The Influenza vaccine was researched (experimented with) for 15 years before being authorized. And then its authorization was pushed ahead of when doctors wanted it to be released because of high infection rates affecting the military's readiness.
Pfizer vaccine (mRNA)was authorized for use on people 12 years old and older on December 11, 2020. That would be under President Trump's administration which took credit for the historic achievement on numerous occasions.
President Trump created a pathway that reduced testing and red tape to encourage/allow/permit companies to get vaccines to the market faster and with less testing than would normally have been done. I think that was a good thing - I believe the scientist when they say the potential dangers of the vaccine are outweighed by the known good it does.
And what difference does it make? Please explain exactly how the scientist came to the conclusion to authorize the use of the vaccine. Explain how the potential long-term effects were completely ignored. And please provide some links or evidence to support your claim/assertion/idea that there is no scientific methodology that was used to determine if the mRNA vaccine might be dangerous - in the long or short time frames. Please, enlighten us.
How many just blindly follow their primary care physician's advice every day? How many BLINDLY follow their Oncologists' treatment plan? How many blindly accept that flying is safe? How many blindly drink Coke or bottled water?
I know a lot about Computers, I know almost nothing about the development of virus vaccines. I can't know everything about everything. So, I listen to my PCP and do what she says. I listen to my Cardiovascular surgeon and do what he says. Do I ask him if he is certified for a particular sticking technique I prefer? Uh, nope. I do not question his knowledge or expertise. I do my job and he counts on his computer working. He does his job and my aorta artery keeps working. Both take what the other does on "BLIND FAITH".
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The reason I pointed out the percentage of Fauci’s staff was your assertion that knowledgeable people in the field of immunology believed in the vaccine, apparently not all…
I never stated that the reason for 50% of the general population not getting vaccinated was due to the lack of testing. But I do find it interesting that half of Fauci’s staff chose not to be vaccinated.
I do not put rocket engines or cruise controls into my body. And I guarantee that cruise control was tested for more than a few months before being approved and released. If my doctor suggested a med, I would absolutely research it before agreeing to take it.
The mRNA early trials of other vaccines were unsuccessful, therefore there were no long term studies and there still haven’t been. Unless you count the current ongoing study of the Covid vaccines. Unfortunately it’s too early to determine the results.
I think it’s great that people in the high risk group were given access to a vaccine so quickly. For them the risk was well worth it. If I was in the high risk category, I would have been vaccinated too.
Here is a quote from Penn Medicine regarding mRNA: “The current evidence base on messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccines is made up entirely of small early-stage trials, nearly all of which examined only short-term outcomes. They lack sufficient power for testing the statistical significance of most results, and for assessing the risk of serious but uncommon adverse events.”
When I was diagnosed with cancer 16 years ago, I visited 3 of the highest rated cancer hospitals in the US. I performed countless hours of research and based on that, made the decision that was best for me. I did NOT blindly accept the first doctor’s opinion.
Did you just just pull any cardiologist’s name, or did you look into him before you went to see him? Maybe that’s the difference, I what to know about the things that will effect my body, and you are willing to accept them without question or knowledge…