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Originally Posted by golfing eagles
Here's my take on this so far. Even though I'm in a better position to evaluate the evidence and draw conclusions, I'm totally confused, mainly due to conflicting data/reports.
On one hand, we have been told locally by the Orange County health director that 0 of the last 2000 "new cases" were vaccinated. And nationally, the CDC basically states the same thing by citing a 0.007% breakthrough rate. On the other hand there are the reports of the Yankees, the Olympic athletes, and some pro golfers that have been "cases" at a high percentage even after vaccination. Who is telling the truth????
The next question is: What constitutes a case? Is it merely a positive antigen test without symptoms? If so, is there something about the test that is affected by the vaccination, which after all is mRNA that codes for the spike protein, which is what the test looks for. Measles, mumps, rubella, polio have all been mentioned as vaccines that almost everyone has had. But did we test someone for measles EVERY OTHER DAY after the vaccine???? Of course not, so why are we testing like crazy after this vaccine. If we had tested for those other vaccines, what would the results have been?
While it is cost prohibitive for the general population, why don't we test Olympians and pro athletes for the ANTIBODY? Do it once and forget about it since they are immune if they have the antibody.
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The way I understand it is.......the Delta variant has greater potential to breakthrough in a Vaccinate person. That person then suffers only mild symptoms or is asymptomatic. They then carry around a SMALL amount of CV. The amount is too small to infect other vaccinated people. The Olympics must have sophisticated testing that detects these SMALL amounts - Then out of an abundance of caution and to satisfy high Japanese concern - they quarantine those athletes.
What I am curious about is if these small amounts of CV carried by the asymptomatic vaccinated people are enough to infect unvaccinated people? I have not heard an answer to that question.