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Originally Posted by coffeebean
That is just plain silly. Un-vaccinated people will just remove the ID bands and "pose" as vaccinated so they can traverse the ship as a vaccinated person. Someone on that cruise ship did not have their thinking cap on to have the un-vaccinated wear the ID bands. It has been reported by many folks on the cruise forums who have been sailing that it is the vaccinated people that wear the ID bands so they can enter the VACCINATED ONLY areas on the ship. I know Royal is doing it this way.
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Know what is even more silly? Vaccinated people thinking they are well protected from infection by Delta variant.
First, an article about Israel with data from their Ministry of Health showing that during the ramp up of Delta variant from May thru July, out of 7700 people who tested positive, 40% were fully vaccinated. Only 1% were individuals who had covid previously
Natural infection vs vaccination: Which gives more protection? - Israel National News
Second, a new study by Mayo Clinic shows vaccines losing effectiveness against Delta
What they're saying: The study found the Pfizer vaccine was only 42% effective against infection in July, when the Delta variant was dominant. "If that's not a wakeup call, I don't know what is," a senior Biden official told Axios.
Driving the news: The study, conducted by nference and the Mayo Clinic, compared the effectiveness of the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines in the Mayo Clinic Health System over time from January to July.
Overall, it found that the Moderna vaccine was 86% effective against infection over the study period, and Pfizer's was 76%. Moderna's vaccine was 92% effective against hospitalization and Pfizer's was 85%.
But the vaccines' effectiveness against infection dropped sharply in July, when the Delta variant's prevalence in Minnesota had risen to over 70%
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Moderna was 76% effective against infection, and Pfizer was only 42% effective.
The study found similar results in other states.
New data on coronavirus vaccine effectiveness against Delta raises concern among Biden administration - Axios
At this point I would feel safer getting on a ship with 100% covid survivors.