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Originally Posted by Bucco
So this killing is ok, but our "torture" is something that we talk about daily almost and act as if those who ordered it, legalized it, carried it out, are demons of some sort.
Viewing innocent citizens as "collateral to the intended mission.", makes me wonder about what we should call those we "tortured"..those who have already killed, planned killings, and threatened to kill.
This is not a defense of, excuse for any inhumane behavior...simply wondering how one who is so violently opposed to what is called "torture" can simply pass off the KILLINGS as "collateral" (and not talking specifically of you YODA...simply borrowed your term)
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You keep saying innocent civilians. Civilians yes. Innocent, not proven.
You changed to torture. If you must. I have read the great report on torture that was released the other day. I was shocked. I went through more than that in basic training. If that's all we were doing and calling it torture, I am disappointed. By all the talk over the years, I was sure that we were braking bones, sticking pins under fingernails or worse. Perhaps we should have been beheading captives as our "Peace loving" enemy does?
Just as a matter of comparison, when the British attacked the colonists during the revolution they were in fact attacking civilians. Do you think that they were all "innocent" civilians?
Bucco, obviously you don't like what is going on. Tell us, how would you prosecute this war?
Yoda