[Boomer]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Getting really tired of dealing with total misinformation. Let's do it again, from Miriam-Webster dictionary:

vac·​cine | \ vak-ˈsēn , ˈvak-ˌsēn \
plural vaccines
Definition of vaccine
1: a preparation that is administered (as by injection) to stimulate the body's immune response against a specific infectious agent or disease: such as
a: an antigenic preparation of a typically inactivated or attenuated (see ATTENUATED sense 2) pathogenic agent (such as a bacterium or virus) or one of its components or products (such as a protein or toxin)
a trivalent influenza vaccine
oral polio vaccine
Many vaccines are made from the virus itself, either weakened or killed, which will induce antibodies to bind and kill a live virus. Measles vaccines are just that, weakened (or attenuated) measles viruses.
— Ann Finkbeiner et al.
… a tetanus toxoid-containing vaccine might be recommended for wound management in a pregnant woman if [greater than or equal to] 5 years have elapsed … .
— Mark Sawyer et al.
In addition the subunit used in a vaccine must be carefully chosen, because not all components of a pathogen represent beneficial immunological targets.
— Thomas J. Matthews and Dani P. Bolognesi
b: a preparation of genetic material (such as a strand of synthesized messenger RNA) that is used by the cells of the body to produce an antigenic substance (such as a fragment of virus spike protein)
… Moderna's coronavirus vaccine … works by injecting a small piece of mRNA from the coronavirus that codes for the virus' spike protein. … mRNA vaccine spurs the body to produce the spike protein internally. That, in turn, triggers an immune response.
— Susie Neilson et al.
The revolutionary messenger RNA vaccines that are now available have been over a decade in development. … Messenger RNA enters the cell cytoplasm and produces protein from the spike of the Covid-19 virus.
— Thomas F. Cozza
Viral vector vaccines, another recent type of vaccine, are similar to DNA and RNA vaccines, but the virus's genetic information is housed in an attenuated virus (unrelated to the disease-causing virus) that helps to promote host cell fusion and entry.

So, once again for those with comprehension issues, it is a VACCINE, NOT A SHOT. If you want a "shot", try the bar at City Fire (Of course you may go home and find you require additional "shots")

[B][SIZE="4"]And next----people post garbage that implies that the vaccinated carry COVID just as much as the unvaccinated. FALSE. The SMALL percentage of vaccinated that do carry the virus have similar viral loads and transmission rates as the unvaccinated---BUT---they are a SMALL percentage----for the original virus it was 0.07%. The CDC has not tracked delta variant breakthrough but it is still relatively low.

And finally, the statement that "unvaccinated people pose no additional risk to others." is frankly idiotic and deserves no further discussion[/B[/SIZE]]

Thank you, golfing eagles, MD,

A couple of days ago, I tried to make the point about the collateral deaths that result from hospitals crammed with UNvaccinated Covid patients hogging beds, causing heart surgeries, and other needed surgeries, to be postponed because there is not enough room or staff to take care of them.

But (sigh) all I got back was that routine about the vaccinated carrying the virus -- and other diversionary tactics that are predictable. I must assume that they cannot imagine that they or someone they love could be among those shut out of care because our hospitals are being put under this completely unnecessary stress caused by the UNvaccinated.

In regard to the idea of a federal mask mandate -- I think that would be stupid because it would not work and would only add fuel to this fire. It is not going to happen.

I find the prohibiting of mask requirements handed down from state governments to be horrifying. It is damned creepy to use kids as pawns.

I do like knowing that private businesses are starting to play hardball. Delta is raising insurance premiums on their UNvaccinated employees by $200 a month.

Some of the hospitals in my hometown are requiring vaccinations. Some are not -- yet. I cannot imagine that all those nurses who are threatening to quit can be employed elsewhere -- unless they want to travel or move, and it would be stupid to uproot their lives for some "cause." Maybe peer-group pressure will work on them as many are signing up to get the vaccine now.

I heard yesterday that my hometown's main theater is going to require proof of vaccination. I have not read that for myself yet, but I sure hope it is true. I think that requirement will be good for theater. The arts have been suffering for a year and a half.

So anyway, leave the feds out of it, but let businesses make their own decisions about requiring the vaccine.

And tighten up the unemployment checks so that those who lose their jobs over refusing vaccination (unless they have a medical reason) are not able to get unemployment on some kind of technicality. They need not think they will have the luxury of lardassing around on my dime.

Oh well, enough of this. I did not intend to get started this morning.

Boomer