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Originally Posted by SkBlogW

Like Judge Judy says "you can't use outdated statistics"

Vastly different rates of contracting and spreading? Not since Delta arrived.

Israel has among the world’s highest levels of vaccination for COVID-19, with 78% of those 12 and older fully vaccinated, the vast majority with the Pfizer vaccine. Yet the country is now logging one of the world’s highest infection rates, with nearly 650 new cases daily per million people. More than half are in fully vaccinated people, underscoring the extraordinary transmissibility of the Delta variant and stoking concerns that the benefits of vaccination ebb over time.

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Fully Vaccinated People Account for 1 in 4 COVID Cases Here, New CDC Report Says

Fully Vaccinated People Account for 1 in 4 COVID Cases Here, New CDC Report Says

I wouldn't call 25 to 50- percent breakthrough cases "vastly different"

Israel is like the canary in the coal mine and scientists/epidemiologists are watching what happens there closely. They were one of the first countries to fully vaccinate a large persentage of citizens, the Delta wave hit them earlier than USA, they documented the large percentage of breakthrough cases, and they are the first country to implement country wide booster shots. (which appear to be working quite well)

I am fully vaxed and recommend it to all at risk. But I find the vaccine shaming and call for vaccine passports ridiculous. First of all, there are probably over 100 million Americans with immunity from previous infection. Immunity that is stronger and more robust than that given by the vaccine. Should they be shamed and forced to vaccinate?

Personally, right now I'd feel safer in a room, boat or plane with 100% covid survivors than 100% vaccinated, because the fact is currently the rate of infection is "vastly different" when comparing breakthrough cases vs reinfections.

I will choose the room filled with fully vaccinated people, please! I read that link.....thank you! The CDC did say 25% breakthrough cases for JUST ONE large city - but, regardless, the CDC did say that it likely is UNDER-REPORTED. So, I will wait for other medical posters to agree or disagree - then I may go back to square 1 during that Alpha variant and go into partial-quarantine and stay 7ft away from people outside and not venture indoors unless necessary. I have some underlying conditions! I DO very much APPRECIATE your link and I will change my behavior accordingly AFTER I have done MORE RESEARCH.