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Old 09-10-2021, 02:50 PM
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This is medical science, "ideology" has nothing to do with it. I don't know your ideology and you don't know mine.
So, scientifically, how is anyone to know that these anecdotes are "factual cases". Where's the proof, the scientific proof? Is the whole world just supposed to take someone's word for it? And even if they are trying to be truthful, their facts and conclusions are probably way off the mark

What needs to be done to answer to question would be a large, multi-centered, randomized, double blind study. Take 5,000 people who have been vaccinated and 5,000 that refused and test them weekly for COVID and interview them for symptoms. Keep a chart of when they were vaccinated. Then we could get a better idea of the breakthrough rate as well as the time course of immunity from the vaccine. I don't know of any group that is actually conducting such a study.[/


Then you have no grounds on which to base your facts because statistics are missing and most people dealing with covid are not being tracked! It’s all hyperbole.
Correct---that was my point---we don't have good data.

What I have is an educated guess as to breakthrough rate for the delta variant based on the breakthrough rate for the original virus and my general knowledge of virology and epidemiology. And that guess is in the 2-8% range. If anyone has more medical education, experience and knowledge of virology, I'd like to hear their guess, because there is nothing to say mine is absolutely correct.