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Originally Posted by golfing eagles
So, let's repeat what you just posted:
"The mRNA in the vaccine teaches your cells how to make copies of the spike protein. If you are exposed to the real virus later, your body will recognize it and know how to fight it off".
This is what you took to mean that the vaccine is "gene manipulation"???? 
OMG, a perfect example of regurgitating something found on a web page with absolutely zero understanding of what it means.
OK, time for remedial genetics 101:
A gene is a sequence of DNA that resides at a specific location on a chromosome and codes for a single protein/enzyme. We have over 100,000 of these genes, and they are separated by sequences of DNA that we do not fully understand, called intercalated DNA. The DNA, when needed to produce its end product, gets "unzipped" by a specific enzyme (RNA polymerase) and transcribes its code to a template known as mRNA. The mRNA then exits the nucleus of the cell, enters the cytoplasm and a ribosome finds it and copies the mRNA to its invers, tRNA. The tRNA then assembles amino acids into a protein chain according to the code.
Follow so far?????
The mRNA vaccines simply enter cells and their code gets translated on ribosomes via the same mechanism to its end product, which in this case is the spike protein of the COVID virus.
IT DOES NOT TOUCH YOUR DNA, IT DOES NOT ALTER ANY GENES, IT SIMPLY ACTS LIKE YOUR OWN mRNA. CLEAR ENOUGH? |
You described how the mRNA vaccines work to trick cells to make spike vaccines. Although that is not gene MODIFICATION, it is certainly gene MANIPULATION.
Here's the bottom line -- your cells don't know how to make ANY proteins without genetic instructions. The ONLY way to "teach" a cell to do anything is to manipulate its genes!
But you forgot to tell us how the J&J works. Its actually DOES manipulate the DNA genes found in the nucleus! It does this by injecting an (assumed) harmless LIVE VIRUS that has been genetically altered to carry the gene necessary to make a human cell produce the Covid "spike" protein. This is what ALL viruses do -- they insert their genetic material into the DNA of the host cell, to force it to make copies of the virus. In this case, J&J altered a benign virus to make it make copes of the spike protein instead of the virus itself.
The assumption with all of these gene manipulation vaccines is that the cells altered aren't likely to be eggs or sperm that would cause an inherited defect, and since the altered cells will soon die off anyway, there should be no lasting damage. But, of course, there is no way to be certain -- it's just unlikely that the vaccine mRNA or J&J virus could make it all the way to your ovaries before it encounters a cell (unlikely -- much like your odds of dying from a cold virus).
But there is no way to be certain that the genes altered or manipulated won't have unintended consequences in some of the trillions of possible combinations of human genes that exist in the wild. We have already discovered that some people develop the clotting disorder that nearly killed my neighbor. What about immune system disorders? What if your immune system suddenly decided that all muscle cells are a danger that must be destroyed because the ones in your arm where you got the shot are producing millions of foreign "spike" proteins?
But the side effect I'm worried about is sterility or birth defects. Nobody knows what happens to a 10-year-old child who's been exposed to this particular gene manipulation, 10 years from now, when they start having kids. Probably nothing. But I would rather we not commit the entire human race to this experiment. Why not just let adults make their own informed choices about themselves and their kids?
This is a disease of old people. We're the ones at risk, not the children. Why don't we take the chance on this risky new technology and leave our grand-kids out of it until we have a few years of history with it?
At this point, we don't know what we don't know.