Benj, you are not going to believe this, but I just wrote a big long thing about health care and this internet connection faded out on me and I lost it.

Anyway, I had quoted your post about health care.. But I had a question about the word "selfishness" that is in it. Did you mean to say "selflessness"? Was that a hazard of spellcheck? It happens.

At the risk of sounding like I am giving out another assignment, please look back at that and let me know. Benj, if I am reading you right in that post, I think we agree again. Are you saying that even though you do not like it that the taxpayers will have to subsidize health care for more people, you realize that some help is needed? But not a government takeover. (I am not trying to mess with your words. I am just looking for a clarification on what you meant there.)

And if that is what you are saying, well that's what I have been saying all along. It does not have to be either/or. I have said many times that the people I know are not looking for a free ride. They just want to be able to afford to buy a ticket to ride.

And then I went off on a little tangent about the greeniacs and how while I think we certainly must respect our environment, I think we are being had by some who are just in it for the cash cows to be herded up.

And then I said to a few in the thread enough with calling moderate, practical me "mushy middle" and saying "no fire in the belly." C'mon those are media generated buzzwords. I can hear and read those lots of places. It's part of the language of the far right who ran me out of the party. Those words again. Chants.

So I cannot recreate here the post that I lost, but please let me know Benj if I read you right. And did you look at the link I did about Frank Luntz and how he teaches politicians to manipulate with words so they do not have to do anything about health care? And did you listen to the vile NPR show? At least give the first segment a chance. That is the part that tells one of the reasons why this is indeed a crisis.

And Kayaker, thanks for the link about the plans.

Goodnight.

Boomer