[QUOTE=cologal;205233]The United States does not Torture....it is a basic value of this country.


I agree that this has been a value of this country for many many years. But times and people change. And when we find that our enemies now are flying planes into buildings or plotting to blow up bridges in rush hour or tunnels at rush hour or exploding dirty bombs on US soil then I suggest we maybe should look at how that impacts our long standing values and find out what we need to do to protect ourselves as best we can.