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Old 05-24-2009, 03:02 PM
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The answer to #2 is.. Erich Mancow Muller, a conservative radio talk show host, was waterboarded. He repeatedly stated that waterboarding was NOT torture and wanted to prove that. Oh well... now he understands what this really was. The one of your own comment referred to the fact he was a conservative....

As for #1...What good are our values if we abandon them so quickly? We tried people for war crimes on this same issue. How can we hold the moral high ground now? Also, there are various claims out there about the value of the information....one reports Cheney's office demanded this procedure to prove a link between Hussein and Al-Qaeda existed. It didn't exist. If this is true then the waterboarding of at least one terrorist was done for self serving reasons.

I have two nephews in the military...one of which has been to Iraq 4 times, wounded once. These tactics put them at risk should they be captured.

My mother used to always say this to me...."Don't sink to their level"

Seems to be a good point here.
Cologal,

We've discussed this before, and with mutual respect. The issue is one where moral concerns intersect with situational practicality, and the lousiest part of it is that the people who would be the recipients of the procedure have full control as to whether there would even be a consideration to apply it.

Your concerns for the welfare of your nephews are sincere, and no comments from anyone (as we are virtually unknown to each other) on this board can (and should) change a sincere feeling of anyone. I would suggest that your nephews, as they sound like good people with considerable experience in dealing with the personalities, and you discuss the issue. Whatever their opinions are on the topic, the opinions will not be based on the theoretical.....

And should you speak to them over this weekend, please inform them that a crusty old vet from TV thanks them for their service in these controversial times.