thank you for your reply, i will try to locate the group you spoke of here in tv.i know of a guy who instructs over in deland for 95$ an hr, everything in cluded, have met him at his shop & he seems to run a good operation., he also sels plane kits, & helps with thier assembly at his shop. met a couple of customers on line & they were pleased with his service. prices for planes are close to what you pay for some motorcycles, goldwings & luxury tourers, not cheap, but less than i expected. again thanks for your reply. rich
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