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Originally Posted by Bill14564

You might want to look at the links I provided before discounting them. The non-KIA site is an independent evaluation of the vehicle you linked to.

You are taking a KIA marketing line, up to 310 miles (going downhill with a tailwind and the air conditioner off on a good day) and disputing an independent evaluation. Even the KIA information of charging to 217 miles in 18 minutes makes me question the 310. Would they really advertise a 70% charge in 18 minutes or would they advertise a commonly-quoted 80% charge? If the 80% charge then their range would be 270 miles which, while greater than the 237 found by Edmunds, and though technically fitting the "up to 310 miles" marketing line, is less than 300 miles of usable range.

I'm not against EVs at all, I would love to find one that is both affordable and meets my needs. Doesn't exist yet.

What I am against is unsubstantiated claims such as that there are several manufacturers of EVs with a 300 mile range and a price tag under $35,000. Google won't find them because they don't exist, at least without the marketing qualifiers of "up to 310 miles" and "after rebates."

To answer your question, I have made at least 10 trips of 300 miles or more (several were 900-1200 miles) in the last 12 months.

And yes, a gas cart. A pretty safe bet given the ratio of carts on the paths these days. In my case, price and availability trumped zealotry.

You had me completely with you until the last word. "Zealotry" really wasn't needed.