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Old 04-17-2022, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by jimjamuser View Post
I think that US PEOPLE and Russian PEOPLE could exist nicely together as long as both countries could be free of a Dictator or autocratic tendencies......and I do mean both countries!
I am not a history person, but (there is always a but) it seems to me that all wars are wars of rich powerful people that the young, poor and powerless are sent to fight and die in so that the rich and powerful person can become more rich and powerful. I will go a step further and say the rich and powerful person is typically a sociopath, which has no emotional connection to other people, and so looks at loss of life in war as a "cost of doing business" and is only considered for how it impacts their personal wealth or power.

The first step in most wars is for "the people" to be convinced the other side are evil demons out to destroy "the people", and so "the people" must defend themselves (and their children) by taking action.

Remember when WE invaded Iraq, all the fear mongering and the online campaign to make Hussain out to be evil incarnate. They forgot to mention WE trained him, WE funded his rise to power, WE supplied him with the weapons he needed. WE stoked the fire, and then had to go to war with him because he got out of control. And who paid the price, hundreds of thousands of civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan, and many American soldiers. And the rich and powerful (corporations) made over $3 Trillion supplying the war machine, while our infrastructure feel apart.

Putin, in my not so humble opinion is a sociopath. He is following the same script, "He has to purge the NAZIs threatening mother Russia!" Most autocrats are sociopaths - approximately 5% of the worlds population are sociopath - 15 million Americans or 1 out of every 20 of your neighbors are.

It is more likely for a sociopath to gain positions of power and wealth because they do not play by rules, since rules do not apply to them. However, most powerful sociopaths are rich and powerful because they are very good at manipulating people. They are often surrounded by a cult following. I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT ANY PARTICULAR LEADER. I am talking about Jones, Putin, Hitler, Mussolini, etc. etc. etc.

To the point of your post. I firmly believe that "people" all would more or less get along fine without the sociopaths pushing misinformation. Most people want to raise their families. Make the world a better place for their kids. Keep their kids healthy and safe. Most people don't REALLY care what form of government they live under, as long as it leaves them alone to do what they want. It is the leaders that have to stir the pot, get people mad at other people.