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Originally Posted by MartinSE

And I was not saying all school shootings are by legally purchased weapons. My point was that this one was, so even if there are laws that are not enforced (and I agree with you there are many laws that are not enforced) it was not a contributing factor in this case.

So, by saying if new are not addressing why, are you saying there is no point is trying to reduce the how?

I will clarify my use of the term "how" in my previous postings on this thread to the use of a gun/rifle as the focal point instead of things like how did the warning signs about this individual get missed as has happened in other previous events? How/why did this perpetrator get past a school resource officer who approached him and engaged him? (Per recent reports). Certainly other questions of "how" need to be addressed. Unfortunately there is a race to be first instead of waiting to get data, so immediately there is a call for more gun laws. The call for more gun laws leans into the emotional side of the discussion, but I have yet to see a correlation of how new gun laws will stop the mass shootings. Per a report (link) published in 2019 by the DOJ in which it surveyed prison inmates in 2016, the majority of guns used in their crimes were obtained illegally. So if guns are obtained illegally, or legally as in this specific case, how do the gun control laws prevent a recurrence of this event?

NO ONE knows why electricity works - I guess we should stop using it (sarcasm). Doing something is better than doing nothing.

But, not all somethings are useful. That is obvious, since there are lots of "somethings" being done, useless gun control laws that are not enforced and have too many loop holes for example.

I am curious as to which gun control laws are useless and not enforced and what the many loopholes are that make them useless.

So, your post was excellent, but came to the same conclusion as many others, we don't know HOW to stop school shootings.

My suggestion is we start talking about it, and stop fighting over the past and find a solution for the future sake of our country and our children

We may not know how to stop the school shootings all together, but we do know how to mitigate the risk. Unfortunately not all schools have implemented risk management plans (in whole or in part) for one reason or another.

I think that the big hurdle is how to start the dialogue. It appears that emotion and politics tend to be the start and end of the discussion.