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Originally Posted by MartinSE
Sorry this is also a myth.
Many of the "founding fathers" were atheists. And the theists were often (mostly?) Puritans (Calvinist's and was based on the Holiness movement) that would never consider what we consider Christians to be Christians today. Women were little more than possessions, etc. Maybe you would like to start "testing" women charged with witch craft? They came here specifically to escape the Church of Englands persecution, and they could persecute anyone not toeing the line to their beliefs.
And if you want Christian beliefs in government, lets start with feeding the poor, giving housing to the homeless, forgiving those that transgress against us, not killing our enemies. You know all those pesky things Jesus told us to do, but evangelicals don't want to do, and instead refer back to the old testament and repeatedly quote the "thous shall nots" and not Jesus saying "thou shalt.
And another point, would you clarifying which Bible you want to make law, and which interpretation of it? Since there are over 200 Christian denominations in the US alone, and over 45,000 in the world.
And does the Pope get a seat in the Christian White House? After all, there are 1.5 billion Catholics and only maybe a 1/2 million Protestants (divided up between 45,000 different interpretations.)
So, I am just. curious, is it YOUR religion you want made law?
Now, could we get back to guns being used to kill children in class rooms for the past 20 years?
"Christians" make up in total about 20% of the worlds population. Yet, some how the other 80% of the world's population are not murdering their children regularly in schools. There are always the occasional wacko dictator, or rebels, or whatever that kills children or others. But, Only in America do we appear to endorse muting children in schools regularly. I say appear, since we have had 20 years to do something about it, and so far we can't agree on anything. 20 years...
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"Most of the signers of the Declaration of Independence were Christians (54 out of 56). Twenty-seven (27) of them held theology degrees." They based the Declaration upon a greater foundational belief that God, or as written in the Declaration
“Creator,” was the source for men’s irrevocable rights.
John Quincy Adams, the 6th president of the United States: “The highest glory of the American Revolution was this: that it connected in one indissoluble bond the principles of civil government with the principles of Christianity.”
I can dig up many other examples of our country being founded on Judeo-Christian values.
This has nothing to do with the subject, but I felt compelled to respond to an opinion that was not quite factual. It's only been within the last ten years or so that the Judeo-Christian majority in America dropped below 90% of the population (according to ABC/WAPO polls.
If you wish to use Christianity as a cause of killings, why not compare it to the very large Muslim population of the world and how many they kill. You can start in some of the African nations, as an example. Let's not base reasoning and rationalization of murder upon the population of one group.
Like I said before and reiterate, guns don't kill, people kill.
The idea that guns are the reason or blame for killing is ludicrous. Millions of people own guns and have never used them against another human, let alone even pointed them at anyone. You are not going to eliminate murder, period. You can ban guns, knives, glass bottles, hammers, screw drivers, bats, axes, etc. but you will not eliminate murder. Murder comes from irrational people. People with mental defects. Until you address that, then you will always have murder.
We have had murder since the beginning of time. Live with it, but just protect yourself from being the victim.