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Originally Posted by MartinSE
Like this shooting, and let's see a few months ago some parents bought their son a gun?
And how many mass shooters survived and went to jail?
Or the Buffalo shooting a little while back that a dealer sold him the gun.
The only place I could find your 2% number of at the FBI site for 1996. For 2016 the number is similar but higher. But the numbers come from "ASKING" the prisoner how and where they got their guns. Not a very credible source.
From the FBI in 2016:
"Prisoners who reported that they had purchased a firearm from a licensed firearm dealer at a retail source were further asked whether they bought the firearm under their own name and whether they knew a background check was conducted. Among those who had possessed a firearm during the offense for which they were imprisoned, 7% of state and 8% of federal prisoners had purchased it under their own name from a licensed firearm dealer at a retail source, while approximately 1% of state and 2% of federal prisoners had purchased a firearm from a licensed dealer at a retail source but did not purchase it under their own name (not shown in table)."
15% from dealers and 1% to 2% under someone else's names.
Also, 2016 didn't summarize the other source, but 1996 did (not very good for today) but the other sources included private sales, shows, etc. Which don't do background checks.
You left those out:
Also, of "our friends in prison" over 60% were in prison for nonweapons-related charges (sex, robbery, and the BIG one drugs).
So, let's go with you, since criminals are getting guns in other places how do you propose we stop that?
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I propose that the only way to stop a large percentage of mass murders is to reduce magazine capacity to 5 rounds and stop selling semi-auto rifles to civilians - BECAUSE that worked for Australia and New Zealand (mass murders went to almost ZERO.
.........And Canada now wants to do something about their mass murder and GUN crimes. They know that they can NOT change the number of people with mental problems (too ambiguous) or stop video games (NOT a factor in other countries). But, GUNS are a TANGIBLE problem that can be worked with, as other counties have (not including the US which IS the STUBBORN OUTLIER).