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Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive
Good point. It has always been interesting that the anti-gun people reject ANY answer or solution that does NOT ban (this time around, anyway) "assault" weapons.
The irony is that they could ban all sales of AR-15 -type weapons and it would make absolutely no difference at all in these crackpots committing these shootings. AR-15s have the shock value when seen but there are other, more efficient weapons (if you're looking for a more "efficient" way to kill a bunch of people) that are perfectly legal and in the hands of millions of people. Just one example: the Federal Government unloaded hundreds of thousands of M1 Carbines after WW II, a semi-auto that comes stock with a 20-round cartridge but 30 round cartridges are available: KCI makes them and they are cheap. You can do even more damage with the M1 Carbine than with the AR-15 especially at close ranges: the bullet is twice as heavy as that fired from the AR style weapons and they come in all sorts of configurations. Hornady makes a 115-grain hollow-point "critical defense" round, and there are rounds similar to that that are excellent deer-killers. And that is only ONE example of a readily-available means of causing mayhem that would outdo the AR-15 - type weapons. There are many others.
The more I think of it, the more it seems that the children are the pawns here. Banning AR-15 type weapons won't protect them. So why not take the steps that DO protect them?
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You are saying that NOTHING can be done to prevent MASS shootings and murders because if the AR-15 style rifle was banned then another model of rifle could take its place. That is ALL incorrect because Australia and New Zealand HAVE already (since about 1985) SOLVED their MASS MURDER problem - and look no further than Canada which is currently SOLVING its GUN murder PROBLEM. So, that PROVES that what you wrote IS incorrect. The US IS the only 1st world nation with a mass GUN murder problem. And the PROBLEM is going to get WORSE as the summer continues.
..........The whole idea that US Citizens should be able to own UNLIMITED types of GUNS is a mindset that is NOT shared by the UK and all other western nations. Their citizens do NOT have to FEAR gathering ing groups like for adults at church or for children at school. They ELIMINATED all those fears by simply banning certain CLASSES of GUNS. It instantly dropped their GUN crimes to near ZERO. In those nations, GUNS were NOT eliminated, just the types of GUNS most likely to be used to shoot up a large crowd or do drive-by shootings.
........As to the M1 carbine being a BETTER man-killer than the AR-15. Just NOT true. The M1 carbine IS a GOOD man-killer, but not as good as the AR-15. The M1 carbine is a military weapon designed to have low recoil so that it was easy for a soldier to get used to the recoil and become proficient with it. The AR-15 has even lower recoil......advantage AR-15. The M1 carbine uses a LOW-VELOCITY pistol cartridge that limits its effective range due to bullet drop to about 200 yards. The AR-15 uses a HIGH-VELOCITY rifle cartridge with an effective range of 550 yards with less bullet drop. ........advantage AR-15 again! The high-velocity of the AR as compared to the M-1 causes a greater WOUND channel in soft human tissue. Again advantage AR-15 as a MILITARY man-killing weapon of war.
..........BOTH the AR-15 and the M1 carbine are banned by ALL the civilized nations of the world except the US for use by CIVILIANS.