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Originally Posted by jimjamuser
You are saying that NOTHING can be done to prevent MASS shootings and murders because if the AR-15 style rifle was banned then another model of rifle could take its place. That is ALL incorrect because Australia and New Zealand HAVE already (since about 1985) SOLVED their MASS MURDER problem - and look no further than Canada which is currently SOLVING its GUN murder PROBLEM. So, that PROVES that what you wrote IS incorrect. The US IS the only 1st world nation with a mass GUN murder problem. And the PROBLEM is going to get WORSE as the summer continues.
..........The whole idea that US Citizens should be able to own UNLIMITED types of GUNS is a mindset that is NOT shared by the UK and all other western nations. Their citizens do NOT have to FEAR gathering ing groups like for adults at church or for children at school. They ELIMINATED all those fears by simply banning certain CLASSES of GUNS. It instantly dropped their GUN crimes to near ZERO. In those nations, GUNS were NOT eliminated, just the types of GUNS most likely to be used to shoot up a large crowd or do drive-by shootings.
........As to the M1 carbine being a BETTER man-killer than the AR-15. Just NOT true. The M1 carbine IS a GOOD man-killer, but not as good as the AR-15. The M1 carbine is a military weapon designed to have low recoil so that it was easy for a soldier to get used to the recoil and become proficient with it. The AR-15 has even lower recoil......advantage AR-15. The M1 carbine uses a LOW-VELOCITY pistol cartridge that limits its effective range due to bullet drop to about 200 yards. The AR-15 uses a HIGH-VELOCITY rifle cartridge with an effective range of 550 yards with less bullet drop. ........advantage AR-15 again! The high-velocity of the AR as compared to the M-1 causes a greater WOUND channel in soft human tissue. Again advantage AR-15 as a MILITARY man-killing weapon of war.
..........BOTH the AR-15 and the M1 carbine are banned by ALL the civilized nations of the world except the US for use by CIVILIANS.
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Some points regarding the quoted post:
1. Bullet drop and range is not a factor as mass shootings such as the recent one in Texas are point-blank.
2. The AR-15 is not a "MILITARY man-killing weapon of war". The original model was produced by Colt and It was produced solely for the civilian market. Once Colt's patent expired the model was made available by several other companies: the one used in the Uvalde shooting, for example, was manufactured by Daniel Defense located in Georgia.
3. The .223 was never a round used by the U.S. Military. The .223 round is manufactured for sale to the civilian market, not the Military. The military round, 5.56 NATO, which is utilized by the American Military in the M4/M4A1 rifle. The rounds LOOK similar but in reality the 5.56 NATO has far better ballistic performance. Even if a civilian owner of an AR-15 obtained some 5.56 ammo, it won't work in a .223.