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Old 07-05-2022, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by MartinSE View Post
You are conflating all murders with mass shootings. Yes, violence will happen, but I feel safe saying zero out of the 300 mass shootings this year have been committed by Bludgeons.

Why are you deflecting from the fact that violence is the problem, not the tool used to commit the violence? It is VILOENCE that is the cause!

The weapon of choice is AR-15. PERIOD. That is not debatable.

Hand guns are the weapon of choice in mass murders by a pretty good margin.

• Guns used in mass shootings U.S. 2021 | Statista


That said, I will agree with you that melting down every AR-15 in the country/world would not stop mass shootings, they would simply switch to another weapon.

I disagree with your comment that people don't want to look at morals and social media et al. I have read numerous reports on those issues. And for the most part they show that those "symptoms" that you list are represent in almost every country in the world. And the other countries do not have 300 mass shootings this year. So, the implication is they are NOT the cause.

You don't consider murder a moral problem? We have an extremely high rate of fatherless children which has been shown to be a significant contributor to juvenile crime. As this chart shows the U.S. has one of the highest rates of fatherless families with the UK having the higest rate and they have been having a large juvenile crime problem.

https://sp
acedoutscientist.com/2017/07/18/single-parents-worldwide-statistics-and-trends/


I personally think the cause is a feeling of hopelessness by most poor and middle class Americans. I don't think I recall a rich person EVER committing a mass shooting in this country. They are typically by people with mental health issues (one could argue that to shoot 6 strangers for not apparent reason is a form of mental illness), or people that want to strike back at others that have bullied them, or men that feel they lives out of control and a significant number are coming from an abusive relationship where they abused their wives who finally left them and got restraining orders - again, a form of feeling like their life is out of control.

So, my question is why is it that so many feel so hopeless in the richest country in the world?

My answer is predatory capitalism, BIG corporations (not small ones) that control our lives, our government and our economy and leave broken people in their wake. That is what I think it is root cause.
][B]You don't think there is "predatory capitalism" in other countries of the world? You want an example, China!
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Have you seen any bills introduced by our elected officials that put restriction on social media to screen the postings of people on the sites? I haven't! If a person posts something on one of the major social media sites that goes against their political/social/economic beliefs it is deleted and the original poster is banned in many cases. Why aren't they deleting and banning violent posts by some of these mass killers? Seems like they only find them when one commits an atrocity.

There have been numerous reports of teens, mainly girls, committing suicide because of bullying on social medial sites. Has anything been done by the owners of these media websites to prevent this type of shaming and bullying? Is that the sound of crickets I hear?

Last edited by Number 10 GI; 07-05-2022 at 05:40 PM.