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Originally Posted by MartinSE
The weapon of choice is AR-15. PERIOD. That is not debatable.
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Martin, you keep saying this and it is absolutely false. According to the Violence Project, DOJ, FBI, and many other databases 77.2% of mass shooting are done with handguns.
Public Mass Shootings: Database Amasses Details of a Half Century of U.S. Mass Shootings with Firearms, Generating Psychosocial Histories | National Institute of Justice
It frustrates me that every time there this discussion ensues people who know nothing about firearms have plenty to say about firearms and NEVER discuss the shooter.
There are over 20,000,000 AR type rifles in the US and when 1 is used in a mass shooting the media makes a huge issue of it. If a different firearm is used they don't even mention it. Then the gun haters go bonkers on forums like this.
If your home remodel looks like crap do you blame the hammer or the person wielding the hammer?
How many schools shooting happened before 1999 (Columbine)?
1764, four Lenape Indians attacked a school and killed 10 people (9 children).
1868 Chattnooga, TN, 3 dead.
1891 Newburgh, NY several student injured by a shotgun.
1927, Bath, MI. 43 killed when the schools was blown up by dynamite (deadliest school murder in history).
1940 Pasadena, CA. 5 dead, 2 injured
All of the mass shootings to this point were done by an older adult who was either an angry employee or jilted lover. In 1966, things changed.
1966, University of Texas massacre, 16 dead, 31 injured in 96 minute rampage.
1970 Kent State University, National Guardsman killed 4 students, injure 9 students
1970 Jackson State College, Police kill 2 students, injure 12 students.
1974 Olean NY, 3 dead, 11 injured
1976 Cal State Fullerton, 7 dead, 2 injured, first school shooting with semi-auto rifle.
1979 Grover Cleveland Elementary, 2 dead, 9 injured
1985 Detroit, 6 injured
1986 Cokeville Elementary, $300 million ransom scheme went wrong when explosives were accidentally detonated. 2 dead, 78 injured.
1988 Winetka, IL, 2 dead, 6 injured
1989 Stockton, CA, Cleveland School massacre, 5 dead, 29 injured
1992 Olivehurst, CA, 4 dead, 10 injured
1997 Pearl, MS, 2 dead, 7 injured. Killer was said to be a Satan worshipper
1997 West Padukah, KY, 3 dead, 5 injured
1998 Jonesboro, AR. 5 dead, 10 inured (my hometown, coincidentally)
1998 Springfield, OR. 2 dead, 22 injured
1999 Columbine High School. 14 dead, 27 injured in a 4 hour rampage. The shooters plotted for a year with the goal of killing 500.
In my opinion the turning point is Columbine. This seems to be the starting point for copy cat killers trying to make a name for themselves. Since Columbine there has been 14 mass school shootings, up to Robb Elementary, taking 169 lives and injuring many more.
Anyone who would kill children is a deranged individual. Whether they use a semi auto handgun, explosives, or AR style rifles the end result is the same. If someone kills my child the instrument is not the problem. As I said before, if you want to stop mass shootings, don't allow men to have guns. Women aren't doing these mass shootings. Obviously, I'm basing that comment on statistics. I still don't believe that will solve the problem. Deranged people will find another way to become "famous". I believe in their mind famous and infamous is one in the same.
I also believe we should consider common sense First Amendment control. The media does not take responsibility for the way they are glorifying these killings. Stop publicizing these killings and the copy cats will stop.
The definition of a mass shooting keeps changing to suit the narrative of gun haters. If a man shoots his wife, two children and himself it is listed as a mass shooting instead of a murder suicide. Gangs drive by a rival gangs home or location and shoots 4 or more people it is listed as a mass shooting instead of gang violence. Artificially inflating the numbers does nothing to solve society's problems. The DOJ defines a mass shooting as 4 or more victims.