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Originally Posted by MartinSE
Well, two things.
1. There is no evidenced that punishment is a deterrent to crimes. Countless studies have shown that.
2. And how many of those lives saved by guns were BECAUSE the other guy had a gun? Sort of a self fulfilling solution. We need guns because people have guns. And I go back, no other country in the world has this problem. Not other county in the world has the guns we do. I understand correlation does not equal causation - but it also doesn't negate the possibility.
And in both England and Australia following mass shootings laws were pass controlling guns and the mass shooting virtually stop. Another data point.
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Read the post again. I said to put "fear" into the Perp so they won't commit the crime to begin with. And that was referring to "putting the murderers down" when they commit murder. Saying "punishment" when I did not say that, is putting words not said into the equation.
When someone consistently compares our country with others, it makes me want to suggest they migrate to such a grand place. Our country is not like those other countries; it's unique. Folks want to come here. Very few of our U.S. citizens wish to reside elsewhere and do not leave permanently. Of course, some will argue and say "I know someone that moved." Some folks argue just to argue, instead of suggesting reasonable solutions. I made reasonable solutions to a persistent problem.
It's very simple:
1. Physical security for the children
2. Specialized training for law enforcement
3. Execute (kill) those that commit murder
Unreasonable ideas:
1. Ban semi-automatic weapons
2. Ban guns
3. Age limits
None of these "unreasonable" ideas will protect the children.