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Originally Posted by Byte1
Read the post again. I said to put "fear" into the Perp so they won't commit the crime to begin with. And that was referring to "putting the murderers down" when they commit murder. Saying "punishment" when I did not say that, is putting words not said into the equation.
When someone consistently compares our country with others, it makes me want to suggest they migrate to such a grand place. Our country is not like those other countries; it's unique. Folks want to come here. Very few of our U.S. citizens wish to reside elsewhere and do not leave permanently. Of course, some will argue and say "I know someone that moved." Some folks argue just to argue, instead of suggesting reasonable solutions. I made reasonable solutions to a persistent problem.
It's very simple:
1. Physical security for the children
2. Specialized training for law enforcement
3. Execute (kill) those that commit murder
Unreasonable ideas:
1. Ban semi-automatic weapons
2. Ban guns
3. Age limits
None of these "unreasonable" ideas will protect the children.
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I apologize, I thought you were referring to incarceration. I agree with you. I don't recall which , but some state(s?) tried requiring death penalty for any felony where a gun was used. I don't think it helped, but honestly don't remember.
As for comparing to other countries. I see no problem with learning from others. Certainly we are different, but when every other country in the world does not have a serious problem we have, then I think it is worth trying to see why. Seeing what works someplace and figuring out how it might be applied here is just smart. It's, in my opinion, learning from others mistakes so I don't have to do it myself.
On your suggestions, we are not far apart. I absolutely want age limits. For the same reason we have age limits on drinking, driving, joining the military, etc etc etc. Children's brains have not fully developed.
And the thing I would add is universal background checks. If someone has a history of violent crimes, spousal abuse, mental illness, etc. I don't think they should have legal access to guns.
Which leads to my other suggestion, which I don't see any reason responsible gun owner should mind, and that is holding the seller of guns responsible to have performed the universal background test. If they failed to perform the test, or sold even though the buyer failed, they should share the blame for anything the illegal purchase results in.
So, I am okay with all of yours except age limits. (I think if a person can go to war at 18, then that should be old enough to own a gun) And I think we should add too more.