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Originally Posted by Sarah_W
Yes, Australia did in fact disarm their citizens by taking away their arms by decree and force of law. Disarming its citizens to a certain point is disarming nonetheless.
Australias gun law (NFA) went into affect in 1996 after the Port Arthur massacre. The US and Australia both define a mass shooting as 5 or more dead or injured. Since 1997, Australia has 17 mass killing events. Your claim of zero is false.
What you wish for is not a solution at all. Removing all semi-automatic rifles will not stop mass killings. Your proposal is to punish law abiding citizens while ignoring those with evil in their heart. Your proposal does not affect the bad guy but adversely affects the good guy. One man with a semi-automatic pistol stopped a mass shooter at the mall in Indiana. When the average response time for law enforcement is 10 minutes, can we estimate how many people would have died that day waiting for the Police? Jonathan Sapirman exited the mens bathroom and began shooting people in the food court. It took 15 seconds for a good citizen with a handgun to stop that threat. Sapirman killed 3 people and injured 2 while firing 24 rounds. When he was killed he had over 100 rounds on him. If Elisha Dicken had not killed Sapirman so quickly we can deduce that with the first magazine there were 5 casualties. He still had four more magazines. There would have likely been 20 more casualties and at the same rate in stead of 3 dead and 2 injured, the total would have been 15 dead and 10 injured. We can safely credit Dicken with saving 12 lives or more.
At this point I have to assume you did not go to any of the links I previously provided including the two videos. The two solutions I have proposed would virtually eliminate school mass shootings.
I agree with you that mass shootings will likely increase. That is because our Federal, State and Local governments have created the conditions. Along with the media, they have created the motive. Notoriety. This is a real world video game and these young men are vying for the high score. To stop mass shootings/killings we have to remove the motive. Their name should not be known. We have to stop glorifying these killings by adding another name to the list of famous killers. The lockdowns forced kids to stay home for nearly two years. What did they do for boredom and inability to be with their peers and to touch their peers?
Perhaps we need copy cat good samaritans? Millions of law abiding responsible gun owning Americans armed and trained to stop the bad guy in 15 seconds.
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I said in a previous post that I agreed that schools should harden their perimeters. Also, large churches and all squares with entertainment in the US, which would be soft targets. Teachers should have bulletproof rooms where they could squeeze the students into during an emergency. This would mean increasing people's property tax and that would be a TOUGH sell. So, I agree with some of your post.
........As far as my being wrong about the zero Australian mass murders. Yes, if it was really 17 mass killing events since 1997. and I will take your word on that. Then, TECHNICALLY......I misspoke myself. BUT, big but........when you consider that 1997 is 25 years ago. Then 17 mass murders in Australia divided by 25 years is .68 mass murders PER YEAR in Australia. Now let us consider the population of Australia and the US. Australia has 27 million people. US about 360 million or about 13 times greater. So, to equalize Australia and the US to correctly compare mass murders we need to multiply Australia's mass murder rate of .68 per year by multiplying that rate by 13 which gives us - 8.84 So, call that about 9 mass killing events per year. In other words......if the US had the laws and social attitude that Australia has, then there would be ONLY 9 mass murder events in the US per year. Compare that to what the US ACTUALLY has, which is about 360 YEAR TO DATE this year. If we extrapolate out to the end of this year, we get 620 mass murder events.
.......So, when I said Australia had zero (and I thought I read that) ...... when you compare the number 9 to the number 620 .......that makes the 9 almost zero in comparison. And it makes me really wish that I lived in Australia with respect to mass murder events. But even more so and better, I would wish to live in the US and children's lives and adult lives were MORE VALUED like they are in Australia and New Zealand. Ask yourself is it better that my gun goes off.....bang, bang, bang real QUICKLY (SEMI-AUTO) or how about the trade-off of ......bang........bang..........bang a little bit slower to save ALL those lives -------------the 620 times 5 or more LIVES that the US will lose in THIS year alone.