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Originally Posted by Sarah_W
With the 4th of July, Uvalde, and the Greenwood Mall mass killings many people want to discuss this societal problem and find solutions to not only protect our children, but the public as a whole.
I know this thread will get locked if it becomes political so please do your very best to keep politics out of it.
The first issue in identifying a solution is understanding the problem. It begins with a failure of uniform definition. The FBI defines a mass murder event as 3 or more people killed. The media is inconsistent with their definition.
Mass shootings are the catalyst for people who wish to ban AR style rifles, despite the fact that 77% of mass shootings don't involve AR style rifles.
In my opinion a logical definition of a mass shooting should be:
1. 1 or more individuals plan to kill many strangers and 3 or more people are killed
2. Family quarrels and murder-suicides are not included
3. Gang violence is not included
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Thanks for starting a thread that is serious (as opposed to the many threads about dog do-so on somebodies yard, which is to me just fertilizer for me) - it is a serious topic and deserves attention because MANY people are interested and they have a viewpoint and it would be educational to have those shared. Mass murder events are increasing in the US much more than in many other countries. In many other countries it would NOT be worth even a thread to discuss it because such crimes are practically non-existent. Children do NOT have to worry about being shot at school in most countries. I just had a thought about imagining hypothetical Beatle's song, "Imagine there are NO mass murder events - I wonder if you can - no children afraid to go to school or church - I know I'm NOT the only one!"
I have one minor question to ask......I thought that the definition of mass murder events was 5 or more. I have heard it that way on TV.......but, I dont't know for sure......3 or more may be correct.
I would also state that the reason 77% of all mass murder events involve pistols is SIMPLY that they are easier to conceal than a much longer AR-15 style rifle. Those that use an AR-15 style are likely to have put more PLANNING in the shooting and their POSSIBLE escape - as did the man escaping for a time dressed as a woman.
........A typical mass killing involving pistols is likely to be more UNPLANNED. Imagine a car full of gang bangers driving around high and drunk and they happen to see, on the street, a rival gang member out with his lady friend, brothers, and other friends. It becomes an impromptu execution! If 3 or 5 or more people end up dead, it becomes a statistic of a mass murder event with PISTOLS. I am sure that these hypothetical gang bangers would have PREFERED to use an AR-15 style rifle (maybe one with a bump-stop) to have greater efficiency from greater range. But, they used pistols because it was a target of opportunity.
........Also, killings of whole families in fits of RAGE would more likely involve PISTOLS.