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Originally Posted by Trayderjoe
I agree that a consistent definition of mass murder events needs to be set, and further that gang violence, although abhorrent, should not be included. This has nothing to do with the value of lives lost, but rather evidence shows that non gang related mass shootings are more widely reported by the media and for longer periods of time.Consider too that people on this board seem to invest more of their time posting on these sensationalized murders versus the weekly killings in Chicago, or the loss of 380 people per day from excessive alcohol per the CDC ( link), or “necking it down” to the 32 alcohol related drunk driving deaths per day reported by the NHTSA ( link)
Another thing that needs to be done is to define mental illness. Does it include people with little to no socialization skills? Does it include pure evil? How are these types of people treated or managed? Are we self aware enough to recognize that “Nintendo babysitters” may be a contributory cause to lack of socialization skills?
Why is it that we continue to hear after a tragic event that these mass shooters left social media posts, or told people about intended violence, prior to the shootings? What can be done to facilitate reporting?
It has been suggested that we take away “the prize” of attention that may be driving copycat killers. Why is this so hard to do?
The focus needs to be on identifying the underlying causes in OUR society that trigger these shooters and then try to fix those causes. The waters get muddied by those who would compare countries since no country operates in a vacuum and such comparisons ignore the differences in cultures and their effects on societal pressures.
Lastly, we need to go back to enforcing the law and holding people accountable for their actions. You choose to do the crime, then be prepared to do the time. |
As to identifying the underlying social cause of the problem......I have stated that IMO the recent Pandemic (which continues today in milder form) is a major factor in the recent increase in overall crime (like car thefts), gun crimes (like robberies and gun violence) and mass murder events. Studying the social psychology of the Pandemic would help to understand the INCREASE in mass murder events and might shed light on the need to eliminate the preferred rifles and magazines used by the most SUCCESSFUL (in a terrible way) mass murderers.
In general, Historically the US as a country began with gun violence. (I am not saying that it was not justified). If gun violence birthed the country, then the gun became a symbol of independence. July 4th is celebrated with fireworks, which is a symbol of cannon fire and the fireworks have the smell of black powder. That smell alone could be retained in the brains and psychology of impressionable youth. After the country was founded, steps were taken to irradicate the Native Americans through violent wars and relocations. Our country also condoned for a long time the violence that was done to Black Americans. After the Civil War, the wild west frontier began, in which, the gun had a prominent place. In movies and on TV the wild west has never died and the six-shooter and rifle had a part to play as big as any actor. And there was violence around labor strikes in the early 20th century. And also, racial violence.
Basically, the US is a country that has glamorized violence and particularly, gun violence. Today the US has a host of problems too numerous to mention, starting with over-population.... (OK I could not help mentioning my favorite). So, we are a historically violent country whose social cohesion is unraveling with 1.2 guns for every US civilian.....WHAT could possibly go wrong?