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Originally Posted by serenityseeker
To be clear,Carlin is an economist, and Davidson is an ex-member of the Carter administration Council of Environmental quality...and to be clear niether of the men are scientists. There paper is basically a review of articles that are for the most part not even peer reviewed.
The point of this reply is that this "smoking gun" is no different that any number of other politically motivated papers on either side of the argument, perhaps different in that it is not done by scientists, has no real research, and is just a selective review of "un-peer reviewed" papers to a large extent.
It did not, by most scientific standards warrant publishing.
To try to lay this off as some Obama administration cover up is ridiculous and simply more political BS and sensationalism from the media and politicians.
Perhaps it is better to put efforts into more real unbiased research and try to find out to what extent we do or do not need to make changes. That this is politicized at all is pretty indicative of peoples priorities.
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I could not disagree with you more emphatically. I suspect that you have never read the 98 page report in its entirety or else you would not have been so erroneously judgemental. This is a link to the actual report. I did read it and could find no correlation to your misleading judgemental analysis about the Carlin-Davidson report. Here is a link to the actual report. I would be interested in opinions from anyone who takes the time to read it.
http://cei.org/cei_files/fm/active/0/DOC062509-004.pdf
The "smoking gun" you cavalierly dismiss is rooted in the suggestion that the Obama administration and the EPA relied on the "
U.N.'s IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change) report. That report, however, was a political document, not a scientific one. Knowing that current scientific research disproves the anthropogenic global warming theory, the U.N. ordered that no recent research be considered in the IPCC report."
The IPCC is a scientific intergovernmental body set up by the World Meteorological Organization (WMO) and by the United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP).
Here is the "smoking gun", in my opinion, based on my own amateur, independent cursory research on the subject. There is a virtual dearth of information about the latest IPCC authors report that in fact is critical of its own 2007 report. The authors of the UN's IPCC 2007 report....connect the dots.....have in a follow-up report suggested a "10 year postponement of global warning".
Further, they state their 2007 report to the UN, did not take into account regional climate oscillations in the Atlantic Ocean since these are/may now be turning toward a "cooler" mode". They now believe that a global warning "postponement" appears likely. Please remember that this revelation is from the authors of the IPCC report that is the basis for all the global warning gymnastics, including Cap and Trade, we are now going through. You won't be reading about that in the Times or the rest of the elite media. However, if you wish, you can peruse it right here on TOTV the truly independent source for political news.....well.....opinions anyway. "Smoking gun anyone ?"
http://cei.org/cei_files/fm/active/0/DOC062509-004.pdf page 89 of 98.
Regarding your somewhat cheap shot at the authors, you state, "To be clear,Carlin is an economist, and Davidson is an ex-member of the Carter administration Council of Environmental quality...and to be clear neither of the men are scientists. " You perpetuate an omission of convenience and that is that Carlin and Davidson work
for the EPA in the EPA's National Center for Environmental Economics. They are superbly credentialed as noted below to comment with authority on the subject matter in issue. Concurrently while you diminish their stellar work as "politically motivated" papers, you overtly give the IPCC 2007 report, the mother of all GW reports, a pass even though it is de facto, a political paper.
Even further, you omit and mislead with their credentials to speak to the subject. To correct the record:
Dr. Carlin, got his undergraduate degree in physics from CalTech and his PhD in economics from MIT,
Dr. John Davidson has a Ph.D., Physics, 1972, University of Michigan
If you read my original post, I think we are somewhat in agreement as I clearly stated I just wanted to see all the facts made public so that the American public can make their own conclusions and choices....notwithstanding my straightforward disapproval of the current administration agenda.
On another note, I appreciate the time you take to offer your articulate professional insights into the National Health Care debate.
Have a good evening.