[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Byte1

It's difficult to help someone understand facts when you even draw a picture and they still don't get it. I made a point that there was already a downward trend in Australia(that seems to be the superior country of choice) before the gun ban. We also have had a downward trend which seems to match that of Australia. No one said that murder does not exist. The point is that attributing a trend to a particular act when the trend was already in motion is not even scientific.
There are two different purposes being displayed here:
1. Ban guns using a very minute percentage of criminal acts as the reasoning.
2. Protect the children.
In this case, children being murdered is a tool or reason for radicals to ban guns. The purpose of the discussion is supposed to be suggestions on how to protect the children. Sorry, but that is like saying, "I want to get rid of liquor so I am going to blame all accidents on DUI's." Get rid of the liquor and you still have vehicle accidents.
Do not presume to compare Australia with the U.S. when it comes to murders. That is a totally different country, with a different culture(s) and different government and different laws. The demographics are different and the population density is different.
If you don't like guns and need a reason to ban them from EVERYONE because of your fear, then please be honest about it. The only thing that will change in mass murders if you get rid of semi-automatic firearms is that anyone intent on killing will use a different tool.
What is more effective, hardening physical security at the schools or banning one instrument of mass murder?

Banning one instrument of Domestic Terror .........the semi-auto rifle .........Australia proved that !