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Originally Posted by Blueblaze
Why doodle around for thousands of years? You're still thinking of God as some grandpa in the sky. God IS the "creation". The creation is His thoughts. And just as you have evolved over your lifetime, God has EVOLVED over the billions of years of His eternal life. You could just as easily ask why YOU "doodled around" for six or seven decades.
The one thing you can't escape is that this universe is too complex to have just grown by accident. How does an accidental Big Bang happen, before causation or time itself even exists?
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Hmm? God has evolved? Evolution is a response to outside influence, like growth of hair to deal with colder environment or more melanin to protect from sunlight. For God to need to evolve seems to imply he/she/It/they are somehow lacking or imperfect.
As for the universe, how can you be so sure this isn't one of a multitude of various universes and proto-universes. Also, the universe's perceived complexity could just the current view or state of the "dust beginning to settle" some 15 billion years after the total random dispersion of the big bang. No one knows for certain. And if God is evolving, that would imply that even he had no idea what the big bang would become when he "lit the fuse", or has no idea where it will end up. Therefore, it wasn't planned?
All we can figure is that believers will view all evidence through through the eyes of a believer, and unbelievers will interpret the evidence from their own perspective.
Interesting philosophical discourse continues.