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Old 08-21-2022, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by jimbomaybe View Post
Good news for people in hell, god can be wrong, " The God in the Bible has changed many times. The god of every religion I know of changes. You are the only one who seems to confuse omnipotence with static perfection, and I merely used the Christian God as an example to refute that idea." There should be no problem finding lawyers in the same place who will help you file an appeal, but then I am still stuck on the watch has to have a watchmaker idea, that somehow you don't then need a creation source for the watchmaker , to my poor logic god is and always was doesn't explain
Something I've pondered.

"Always was" presupposes a beginning date or event. Call it the Big Bang, call it the Creation, call it whatever. But in order to define "always" we have to have a beginning. Our reality begins with that beginning. Our perception cannot extend beyond, or outside, that reality, because it is all there is.

Therefore to ask "what happened BEFORE the beginning?" is illogical. There is no way we can ever know.