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Old 09-13-2022, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr View Post
As long as there is a country and a government, some degree of socialism will be necessary. The government itself is a socialist entity as is the military, police, fire, post office, social security and all other government entities.

The difference between the two is that a socialist service is always there but you have no choice. If you have a fire in your house, you call the fire department and they come and put out the fire and there is no cost to you. If you don't like the job that they're doing, you don't have the option of calling a competing fire department.

Whereas in a capitalist society, you may have the choice of several different companies to choose from. But if you don't pay, you don't get service.

Some socialism will always be necessary. It's a matter of choosing how much do we want. We need to decide what the balance should be.
Just because we have never lived without socialist infringements on our liberties does not mean it's the only way to live, or even normal. It's only been for the last 150 years since Marx published Das Kapital that stupid socialist leaders have been inflicting them on us, while never learning from the failures.

The great wealth of the modern world is entirely due to the capitalist policies that followed in the United States and Great Britain after the publication of Adam Smith's "Wealth of Nations". Socialism in America only gained a foothold during the Great Depression, when America's second Socialist President, FDR, attempted to apply more socialism to rectify the failures of the first, Woodrow Wilson. FDR failed to solve the Depression for over 10 years, until WW2 came along and finally forced Wilson's ignorant FED to print the money necessary to end the DE-flation. But FDR got the credit, anyway, and we've been stuck with a socialist government ever since. That doesn't make it either normal or necessary. It just means we're used to it because we've never known better. Read Milton Friedman's "Free to Choose" sometime, and learn the truth.

True public services, such as roads, police and fire protection have nothing to do with Socialism. Public services have been provided by all governments since the Roman Empire. The difference is that they benefit ALL citizens regardless of wealth or social standing -- unlike socialist giveaway programs like Social Security and Welfare, that target specific factions in order to buy their votes. But those programs invariably vanish as soon as the Socialists achieve Communism, when the citizens effectively become serfs of the government and there is no longer a need to buy their votes. Serfs work until the day they die. Serfs take what their master gives them, not what they can earn and buy for themselves, through service to the fellow citizens.