
09-30-2022, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by MartinSE
Okay, I will bite, where are you going (200 to 250 mile range) if the power is out? Gas stations can't pump or charge you, grocery stores can't run the cash registers, banks are definitely not going to be open, etc.
So, let's accept that the situation occurs and both the EV and an ICE are full. The EV (current) has a 200 to 300 mile capacity, the ICE has a 400 mile capacity.
If you are going up north, are we assuming there is NO power for 200 miles north of here? That would be a pretty serious catastrophe.
52 weeks of 200 miles of driving comes out to 10K per year. That is more than I drive now without a power outage. My point here being I except 200 to 400 miles range is more than most people will need for a week without power.
Also, GM has already announced a 400 mile range (I think for next year). Others are doing the same.
MOST of the arguments I hear/read are saying why EVs won't work now. And I completely agree, if tomorrow we all woke up and found an EV had magically replaced our ICE vehicles, we would be in a world of hurts with circuit breakers popping on all the transmission grids. But that is not going to happen. It is not physically possible to replace 300 million ICE vehicles in even a decade. Even in 3 decades would be a push, that is 10 million cars a year for 30 years. We currently sell about 17 million cars and trucks per year. Converting all those factories to EV is going to take time, so some percentage of that 17 million will become EVs, but certainly not all any time soon. So, we have at least 30 years, probably more, to transition. Meaning improve infrastructure, improve battery technology, convert factories, etc, etc, etc. A lot of work.
Also, I really liked a comment by Jay Leno recently. He expects people to keep their ICE vehicles around for a long time - for those limited cases where the EV is just not appropriate. But the benefits of driving an EV all the other times (two miles to Publix from my house) far out weigh the negatives. So, he expects most people will have one of each for a while until we can transition.
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I'm sure that all those blue collar working stiffs can afford one of each. Right......... Sorry, but EVs are not practical for those that are low to middle class with families to feed. Our air quality is much better now than when I was a kid......'50s. If you want to get serious about the pollution situation and transportation, then go with hydrogen cells. Hydrogen doesn't pollute unless you consider water as a pollutant. Probably the reason big business does not wish to invest in hydrogen is that producing hydrogen is cheap in comparison to other power sources. But, if one wishes to finance China and other countries by purchasing EV products, then go for it. I'm sure I won't be around to see the chaos created by those after us. Until then, how about we become fuel independent again like we were a couple years ago?
NO, I have no intention of purchasing an EV. I just purchased a 2022 fossil fuel burner and couldn't afford the luxury of bragging rights to having an EV even if I wanted one.
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