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Old 07-20-2009, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna View Post
Watching the heated debate regarding the various healthcare reform proposals bring a couple of common proverbs to mind.

Those members of Congress that are so vehemently arguing against any sort of "government option" bring the saying from Hamlet to mind..."The lady doth protest too much, methinks." Why such protest? There is evidence that government-provided health insurance works satisfactorily, in Canada and England, but also our own Medicare program which so many seniors vehemently demand remain untouched. Why such protest by some in Congress, at this point mostly from the minority party? Is there a possibility, just a remote possibility, that the lobbyists for interests whose profits would be threatened or diminished by these proposals are at work here? Those same interests who at the conclusion of the heated debate over prescription drug coverage actually wrote the Medicare Part D bill which has proven so ineffective for seniors, hugely expensive for the taxpayers, and dramatically profitable for the drug companies?

Another question that seems so obvious given the administration's stated objectives for the reform being discussed is why has there been no mention of tort reform in the discussions regarding this legislation? A stated goal--maybe the most important objective of the proposed reform--is the reduction of the cost of healthcare. Clearly, the cost of litigation, settlements and malpractice awards are a significant element of the cost of healthcare. That alone may be a reason why healthcare in countries which provide "single payor" coverage is so much less expensive. Is is possible, just possible, that the lobbyists for the trial lawyers have already completed their work successfully with our elected representatives from both parties?

Another proverb, although not in the form of a question, is the devil will be in the details. Regardless of how the fundamental elements of whatever "reform" is finally agreed to, we--the electorate and the folks who will ultimately pick up the tab for this "reform"--better pay attention to who's making out from the details of this legislation. Even though the Democrats appear to have a sufficient majority to push some sort of legislation thru to passage, they shouldn't get a pass on the possibility of having been influenced by special interests. They already have and will be as these negotiations progress. We'd all better stay aware of how the legislation they pass effects us, how expensive it will be for us, and which special interests turn out to be big beneficiaries. Otherwise, how will we know who to blame?
Regarding the underlined areas in the quote:

1. http://www.liberty-page.com/issues/h...d.html#britain
This link documents what experiences the locals in the countries with nationalized health have. It is not a pretty picture. What these experiences make obvious - it's a good system if you are healthy, but if you have significant problems and are not in the correct age-bands, you are SOL (**** out of luck) .

2. http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/71xx/doc7...alpractice.pdf

The Congressional Budget Office is about as reliable as it gets. According to the CBO, less than 2% of all health care costs were attributed to medical malpractice. That's the tort payoffs, malpractice insurance, et al. The numbers show that 'tort reform' won't make a hill-of-beans difference in health care costs, and the CBO estimates the most that could be gained is less than 0.4-0.5% reduction in costs maybe.

Again, medical care is the only US industry without foreign competition in the domestic marketplace. While the rest of the economy gets clobbered with foreign competition, the medical industry is doing what we wished the rest of the economy would do. Just goes to show what unbalanced foreign competiton in the marketplace is doing to us.

So, is it possible we are looking at a situation made politically convenient for intervention, when the actual underlying problem is a couple of degrees away? If that's the case, meddling with health care will just make government bigger, increase costs via higher taxes, and lower wages (if benefits go up, wages go down). If wages do go down to offset higher benefit costs, the impact of higher taxes will be harder on folk, and the result will be another slowdown in the economy as there will less discretionary income in the family budget .

As the old FL adage states: "When you are up to your @$$ in alligators, it's tough to remember your only intention was to drain a swamp."