but way more cerebral than necessary for the topic. Numbers can be made to look like anything that one wants to prove. Health care, like finance, will be screwed up like all government programs.

Can anyone think of any government program that works without graft, corruption, nepotism, cost over run or public abuse?

Only one answer is applicable to any new, or old for that matter, government spending and that is for government to simply stay out of our lives! Socializing medicine is just one more boondoggle waiting to happen.