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Old 07-21-2009, 06:27 PM
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The Taliban- which is the Mujahadeem that WE supported with guns, missiles and armaments is a ruthless group of religious/political despots. While they are clearly our enemy for a "protecting the enemy" (Al Queda), it becomes simplistic to say - "Oh, they're responsible for 9/11." No, they harbor terrorists and want to destroy not just the West, but anyone and anything that opposes their own bizarre fundamentalist interprestation of their holy scripture- just like Christian fundamentalists here and in Europe have done throughout the centuries. But as our president correctly says, "This is our time." It's no longer important that more than 5 milllion Europeans from all sides were killed during the Inquisition/Reformation/Counter-reformation.

Ancient history.

This is our time.

Radical Islamists- the Taliban and others want to, and have killed, Christians, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists- you name it. And we simplify this all down into whether a video shows one U.S. soldier being treated well by them, or them being abused and tortured American-style.

Yes, I am being sarcastic. Video and propaganda are such powerful forces that they will trump the "Yeah, Bring 'em on!" red-meat idiots every time. We alienated ourselves from the rest of the world, when we could have but didn't, and now hopefully ARE, uniting, to cast extremists as dangerous.

We will not stop the Taliban and those others from their holy war with military force or our former "cowboy diplomacy." Sadly, that brave soldier will most probably be murdered- but the Taliban will have scored much, much more than simply killing one American G.I. They will have shown the world that since the U.S. violated international law, there is no obligation to for them to adhere to it either.

WE are the very force that told them they are not subject to international law! Well, duh. The chickens, once again, ad nauseum, come home to roost.

It seems to me that pointing out the oblvious (That there are large groups of people out to destroy us) does not leas to a simple or single solution. It seems to me a bigger part of the SOLUTION is to encourage the rest of the world, including 2 billion Muslims, to realize that radical Islamic movements are the enemy to all cultures and societies, and the world would be better "siding" with us not out of military necessity, but out of its own desire to survive.

Unfortunately, as long as the U.S. and its allies support whatever dictator or regime suits us for the short-term, with no regard for longer-term interests, we will end up getting - sorry- kicked in the *&*%. And the only real winners are the religious fanatics (even including some radical American fundamentalists) who seek to destroy anything that challenges the twisted theocratic view of what God/Allah commmands the "culture" to be.

It's much more than simply us v. them.
Not really sure where your coming from...but what is this international war violation your talking about? We do have a United Nations that has out lived it's usefulness. International law. That sounds like one government and laws for everybody? Who makes these laws. If a guy like Hitler breaks the law...do we take him to court?
The terrorists planned to take the towers down when Clinton decided to play the law-game after they bombed the towers the first time. Let me remind you that the "cowboy diplomacy" has kept us safe for 8 years.