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Old 12-28-2022, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by blueash View Post
Do you even read the links you provide? I pointed out, I thought clearly, that the reason for the change in total deaths moving toward a higher percentage of those deaths being in those vaccinated was because a high percentage of all Americans are vaccinated. And further that the risk of death remains much higher in those who have refused vaccines. Risk of death is how many die in a matched set of say 1000 vaccinated vs 1000 unvaccinated.

You continue to suggest that the vaccines do not work and the data, including the link you posted say exactly the opposite of what you are presenting to the readers of this forum. You are spreading misinformation and putting lives at risk.

From the WebMD link:


From the Guardian link which you used to attempt to show that deaths are being attributed to Covid when it was a trivial comorbidity... That article said nothing about that issue, rather it reported a coding error where if a box was checked reporting a date of death the software was ignoring another box that said the death was not related to Covid. This software error was caught and fixed and the numbers were revised. By the way, the error originally occurred at the state or county level when the forms were filled in. The form first asked was the death related to covid. Then the date of death was to be filled in only if YES to the first question. If someone put a date of death when the cause was not Covid the initial software guessed that the yes/no had been answered wrong. They then removed all the deaths when the "caused by Covid" was NO but a date was entered.
This in fact may have resulted in an undercount as certainly some of the forms had the error of checking the wrong yes/no box. Thus when all is said and done, the CDC undercounted Covid deaths in these mismatched forms.

I closely read the CDC reports and can promise you that the CDC never said what you claim it said that "ANY death where there was a positive covid test was considered a covid death"

If you actually care about how the CDC wanted death certificates to be filled in to allow for collection of accurate data you can read the webinar done in April 2020 when Covid was just beginning. It is very clear they only want Covid listed if it is the cause of death.
https://emergency.cdc.gov/coca/ppt/2...transcript.pdf

While it is possible that some individual funeral homes or coroners did not follow CDC guidelines, that works both ways. Including there being individuals who would not list Covid on forms.
County coroner in Missouri says he omits Covid-19 from some death certificates
or from this story: COVID-19 deaths obscured by inaccurate death certificates
Using your "logic", those unvaccinated are dying at a higher rate. But it's the younger population that has a much lower vaccination rate.

Yet you insist it's only the older people who are dying...

Frankly, I don't give a whit as to what "you can promise me"...

Using what they said in "April 2020" is folly, since we now know they were making things up at that time...

I've seen the videos of the director of the CDC saying exactly what I said. Same with some State Health Administrators.

Case in point:

https://youtu.be/6SjwUXyP8j4
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